Animal Fannies and Racists24 Jun 2008 12:09 pm
By Nelson
Thanks to Chloe.
Who cares if clothes are ethically made or not? Who cares if children in India are getting paid pennies for making items sold in the UK? These people know no better and to them it is normality, just as somebody living in London and working in the City 5 days a week for a poultry £30,000 a year would consider such a routine normality or the “real world”.
Who’s to say that such practices are “exploitative”? The BBC denotes this in their report. Its the free market at work and long may it last.
D, London
Mm, £30,000 worth of chicken.
He’s got a good point. What does it matter that we’re keeping half a billion people on the poverty line, encouraging them to pollute their local environment to the point of extinction and fostering a generation who simultaneously desire the west’s high living standards and harbour immense resentment at fuelling them without reciprocation? Look at the wider issue here, guys: Four fucking quid for a pair of jeans!
Man I didn’t know £30k a year was a low income!
I think I’ve met people like this.
Do you ever wish there was a facility to smack people in the face over the internet?
Who’s to say? Who? Who is it that’s going to say it?
Obviously not “D”
Bloody students, what’re you doing on the Intarwebs when you haven’t even got a job yet? Why aren’t you down the mine with all the other HARD working people of this country?!!!!111oneoneone
Political correctness GONE MAD!!11!!!1One
I do. Apparently I’m not the only one.
Me. If the person writing this comment likes being exploited in India so much, why don’t they go live there?
I wonder if D didn’t have that £30K job in London, and lived on the street, whether they’d still be expounding the wonder of the free market.
I dislike selfishness on this level.
> Do you ever wish there was a facility to smack people in the face over the internet?
Smack, no. Stab, yes.
http://www.bash.org/?4281
I admire his candour.
But I would fuck him up with a snooker cue.
MY HEAD HAS JUST EXPLODED WITH ANGER
*sorry caps
Christ people like this make me seethe.
i love that this guy reckons people in the city are paid in chickens.
there was a doco series on bbc3 recently called “blood sweat & t shirts” where some young, hip london fashionistas went to india to work in sweat shops and see if it changed their minds at all. most of them were converted to some degree or other but one of them insisted on peddling this “well to them it’s just normal so it’s fine” attitude. the way i see it if you wouldn’t want to live that way yourself, how is it fine to contribute to making people live that way?
Only the ones who work on Cheepside.
I think D’s problem is that he/she struggles with the idea of “other people”.
Clinically that would make him/her a psychopath, but I’m confused because psychopaths usually do very well in the workplace, and D is only earning £30,000.
I’ve been reading this site for ages and yes, there are a plentiful supply of vacous bigots available, but this is REALLY the one i’d just like to see executed.
“Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken.
“And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools.
“Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless.
“You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience, that they seldom even guess at your condition.
“In other words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is conveniently invisible to the world.
“You can do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their consciences will most likely remain undiscovered.
“How will you live your life?”
Me, I’d work a dead end job in London for £30k p.a.
i kind of agree agree with him, why exactly is it expliotation, they’re being paid?
Britian didn’t get where it is today by denying Children to do piece work in their family homes. It’s not like they were working with dangerous machinery
I demand my species re-classification, so that I, too, can earn the going rate for poultry! My job in Kensington pays barely half that, and it’s not even all that routine.
Alex, just in case you weren’t joking, it’s illegal. Actually in the coutry they were working in, illegal.
So £30,000 a year in London is equivalent to an 8 year old working for a dollar a day in some Calcutta back street and this is all perfectly acceptable?
Why do I get the feeling that ‘D’ is a £30,000 Londoner and not a four-fingered, half-blind, emaciated nipper in Calcutta?
I wish I had a pair of pliers, a blow-torch and unrestricted access to D’s face.
Just imagine D was involved in some horrific accident and unable to work. At least we could take his children, hole them up in a basement and have them make trainers 18 hours a day insetad of going to school. Then we could send him a couple of chickens each week as payment. I’m sure he’d be happy to see the free market at work!
Once again my eyes are opened by the HYS community. I had no idea that I am being exploited by my employer in London. According to D I am only being paid enough to keep just above the poverty line…not that D would care, of course.
I must go home to my measly semi detached and tell my wife that we are living to the same standards as those people who make those nice t shirts we buy for taking on holiday to faraway places….like India.
Tit.
I think D actually aspires to earn £30K in the city.
Hear hear! It’s about time some fruitcake came out of the woodwork and defended Third World slavery! What these boobs in India fail to understand is that we, their natural overlords, require cheap clothing made by children so we can throw it away after we’ve worn it twice. How else are we to congratulate ourselves on our good fortune at not being born in some wretched hovel like Bangalore, if not by disposing of perfectly wearable garments made by idiots in refugee camps and slums?
This D character, though clearly insane, makes the point perfectly when he points out these chimpanzees know no better - in my book, they should be forced to make clothes for the British until their hands fall off, and then be chopped up and used as fertilizer for cotton fields.
D should be sold into slavery, paid fuck-all and worked to death. No luncheon vouchers either.
I think Nelson has made an error here.
I’m not sure that chickens have “chuffs” as he puts it… I think they have a different biological set-up.
Perhaps there is a vet on the thread who can sort this out given that we have so many talented people posting - mathematicians and media studies and the like!
Chickens may not have the same set up as mammals but they certainly have a place where the “cock” goes in and the egg comes out.
Whether or not you want to call that a chuff is up to you.
What gets me is he doesn’t even think “hm… 30p a week. That seems a tiny bit stingy. Maybe they’re due a bit of a raise”. Was this guy always like this, or did the opportunity to appear on the internet as a 24 caret poodle snatch turn him into the cunt that he is? Or maybe its the strain of trying to get by on a measly 30k in London.
Agreed. If a gnat can have a chuff I don’t why there can’t be equal opportunity for chickens.
IT IS HELL ON EARTH, PEOPLE!!! WAKE UP, OPEN YOUR MIND, CHICKENS ARE ALREADY EQUAL TO COCKS, NEXT STOP IS GNATS EQUAL TO CHICKENS, which means to COCKS, WHAT A SHAME!!
Well…I think the issue here is…you should know better. You self absorbed twat.
He’s got a point. Who are we to pry into these sort of things. I bet that woman in Austria was having a whale of a time trapped in the cellar being abused by that weirdo. After all, she did not know anything of a better life.
All this talk of chickens and eggs begs the question- what came first? The HYS board or the mindless retard?
Wow, this person is the biggest cockroach’s ladygarden to be featured on an Animal Fanny Tuesday for a long time.
Regarding chickens, your other readers might like to research the cloaca. Or, indeed, to “research the cloaca.” It depends on how much you like euphemistic quotation marks.
“Its the free market at work and long may it last.”
So, hold on, their labour markets are allowed to be free when they’re making cheap tat for us, but our labour markets must be highly regulated to stop poles and darkies from coming here, but that’s in no way racist and anyone who says otherwise is ‘pc gone mad’ ?
Genius,
Yes, I bet he’d be the first to cluck if offshoring plucked his job from under him. After all, £30,000 a year isn’t enough to feather one’s nest. He’d probably haul his ex-employers before the beak in the hope of getting something to crow about - and of course the compensation culture would egg him on. But even then I don’t think he’d see the benefits of joining a co-op. Because he’s a cock.
I’m not a violent person, but oh how I want to inflict some serious pain on this self-absorbed fuckwit.
This was a weird mf thread. All the idiots who accuse “liberals” of “moral relativism” for opposing anything where brown people get locked or blown up arbitrarily, suddenly came out and said “Well, they have different standards in India when it comes to making children work for 50p a day. We shouldn’t interfere.”
So £30,000 a year in London is equivalent to an 8 year old working for a dollar a day in some Calcutta back street
i think a dollar a day is something of an over-estimation…….
Only the ones who work on Cheepside.
heh, very good
how do i quote btw…?
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I’m afraid the only answer is to round up everyone in London whose name begins with D, and put them to virtual slavery in a cotton mill.
It may sound harsh at first, but soon people will be used to it, they will know no better and it will be normality.
He could have gone the full mile and put “eggsploitive”.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO NO NO NONONONONONONO. NO. NONONO.
People like this cannot possibly exist. Please.
It’s all very well for us in the west to despise our capitalist excesses, our need for cheap clothing and our general contempt of the world.
But, but… if you take away the labour from some of these poor nations, and ok some of it is done by children, do we do them any favours? Especially if the children in the family are the only wage earners?
I don’t think we’d advocate removing a family income. Just that the family income shouldn’t rely on exploitative and morally dubious supply chains.
oh the humanity
and, may i add to that last comment, it’s not about advocating stopping family income, it’s not about advocating removing jobs from places where people desperately need to earn. what it should be about is making changes in the fashion industry so that in such places families can earn a living wage (at least) without having to labour for 20 hours a day, sleep on the floor of the factory, work in highly unsanitary conditions all so they can get a pittance (that bbc doc revealed that wages were between 60p and £2 per day, if they worked all the hours god sends) to send home to their families to pay for their kids’ education, so that maybe the kids might get a better life.
i can’t understand how anyone could possibly see striving for that as a bad thing.
^ oh, and in the electronics industry in the case of china, and i’m sure there are others too…
Not to mention that the great attraction of immigration is this huge wage disparity.
The rising price of fuel will also have an effect on globalisation. It will soon be cheaper to produce tat at home than abroad, this will pressure suppliers to concentrate on technology to reduce costs (instead of just going where the labour is cheapest).
Hopefully when technology like RepRap matures everyone will be able to have their own mini-factory to produce fucking tat for them. Then comrades, the age of scarcity will be over, and we’ll all be able to chill in our new socialist utopia.
Sorry, the above is total bollocks, but I enjoyed writing it.
Checking again: yep, D is still a gnu’s gonad.
Is this website maintained by third world child labour or £30k Londoners?
Nope. I’m afraid it’s produced in Nottingham, where we all get shot most days.
In memory of the dearly departed and sadly missed George Carlin:
“CHICKENS ARE GOOD PEOPLE - you don’t here of a chicken coming home after a hard day in the farmyard and smacking his hen about do ya!”
I feel sick
Yup, dollar a day probably is a good wage in India. And there’s Bollywood billionaires there to make Europeans look 3rd world. But but but, it’s not how far what you earn goes, it’s what you have to do to get it. 30K a bad wage? For doing just what exactly?