Quite literally getting away with murder
By KelvinShould murder laws be changed so that the wife you’ve chained to the cooker can knifecrime you in the face while you’re delivering her nightly post-pub slap?
I agree that there is a difference between cold blooded murder, and someone killing a partner out of fear and desperation. However, if these changes are not implemented with caution, we will see a leap in cases where one has been killed by their partner, and the partner will make the case that they were being abused, whether or not it’s true.
What next? “My client was driven to kill her husband because he kept leaving the cap off the toothpaste!”
Jethro Tull, Kent, United Kingdom
A very good point. Obviously the people drafting the law haven’t considered your cunning loophole. I’ll write to them - in case the nurse won’t let you have the crayon today - with a letter saying, make sure you check people’s stories when they say they were being abused - don’t just let them off with it! I’ll suggest they get about 10 or 14 people to agree whether they think the right decision’s been made too.
Another sexist law to benefit women. So now someone who, of their own free will, stays with a partner who beats them up is allowed to kill them and not be charged with murder.
There is a great amount of help for women (but not men) who are victims of domestic violence so there is no excuse for staying with them.
I don’t condone domestic - or indeed any - violence toward women, but murder is murder.
[Mark_in_Wilts]
These wily women, Mark. Back when I was seven I wrote a swear on Marie-Claire Armstrong’s pencil case. Next thing I know I’m 26, she’s contacting me through friends reunited and we’re married after a whirlwind romance. Within six months she had me mounted in a strange marionette device which forced me to beat her up every night and formed my vocal chords into shapes which made me say the most horrible things about her. Finally I got weirded out and left her, but with the benefit of your perspective it occurs to me she was forcing me into it so she could fit me up and get away with killing me. Lucky escape, I see now.
Okay, so now that political correctness and the nanny state has proven that it is a complete failure when can common sense and liberty be reinstalled into this country?
I am sick of watching criminals get away with it while the victim is treated with no justice and no protection.
Bring back hard discipline for hard crimes, stop molly coddling to human rights that criminals exploit and the victims have none.Just Another HYS Ranter, United Kingdom
I hear the nanny state’s next move after keeping murder illegal is to not decriminalise rape.
Murder is murder and should be punishable by life in a proper jail, not the 5 star hotels they are kept in now.
Anyone committing murder is scum and has no right to enjoyable life, the person they killed doesn’t get a second chance at life so neither should these people. No rehab, no time off for good behaviour, no privileges, just sit in a conrete cell until death because that’s what is deserved.[speaking_my_mind]
True, true. The wife and I booked two weeks in Pentonville last summer (tax fraud, decent lawyer, cost us less than Majorca would have, all told) and you literally wouldn’t believe how lovely it all was. This lovely fellow named Stabber showed us how to make a shiv from a spoon, oh the games we played!
Ohhh… I’m liking the use of ‘knifecrime’ as a verb. That could catch on, you know.
What’s next? Allowing women to knifecrime anyone they like just cos they have the painters in?
It’s a Gordon Clown NULiarBore conspiracy to turn all right thinking red blooded English males into homosexualists.
End of, FACT, You couldn’t …..etc.
Added: Tuesday, 29 July, 2008, 10:18 GMT 11:18 UK
This is just ANOTHER anti-men law by the nu labour feminist marxist goverment.Come on BBC SHOW US SOME OF THE COMMENTS or have they all been rejected as UNSUITABLE? LOL
Laughing at the sexists.
B Warned, Dundee
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Oh lord.
What I’d really, really like to see is [speaking my mind] kept in a cell for a while just so that they can experience what it’s like being a prisoner. Preferably with his wrists chained to his ankles for the full experience.
That’s probably because any man who gets beaten up by a woman on a regular basis is just a pussy and doesn’t deserve any help. It’s the old order of things at large: I thought that’s what you wanted, Mr. Mark_in_Wilts?
Damn right too. I hope she gave the fucker all he deserved, and more besides. Leaving the cap off the fucking toothpaste. People should be shot for crimes like that. And they let rapists roam free too! You literally could not come up with this original idea by yourself?”!!!1oneeleven!
Can all HYS usernames be replaced by ‘Just Another HYS Ranter’, as above.
You know, for clarity.
I’m glad that Mark_in_Wilts doesn’t condone domestic - or indeed any - violence toward women. Just towards peados and darkies, then.
Paedos. Not peados.
I think you’ll find it’s peedos.
Damn. This is what happens when it is LITERALLY impossible not to get a triple A* in English language GCSE.
You can’t help but think the ‘drunk man’ and Andrew Carter are one and the same.
I stayed in a five star hotel once and it was exactly how I imagine prison must be; a lovely bar on the beach, free to go out whenever I wanted, luxurious en suite bathroom, room service…
Admittedly I did get shanked while the screws weren’t watching for not going down on ‘Big Ed’ the Maitre d’ when he wanted a bitch, but what with my smack addiction numbing the pain I didn’t really mind too much.
Oh look - Topsy Turvey - back at the top of the most recommended again with some mindless bile
I’d like to brand you across the forehead with a word Mr Turvy - and it would begin with C too.
The saddest thing here is that none of these people sound like they actually do slap the wife about, but they all seem to be worried that she’s going to do them in at the first opportunity. Paranoia is the first sign of Daily Mail readership, kids.
@ Kelvin. No, I am pretty sure that none off them would dare slap anyone. To be frank, most of them would be unlikely to have girlfriends, let alone wives. However I think they are just standing up for the RIGHT to slap your wife, unimepeded by the wheels of the state….
Stands to reason, dunnit.
This is just mind-blowing. How can people actually think stuff like this?
That’s ‘of’ obviously. Not ‘off’.
I can see it now. A whole slew of evil women queing up at the nearest toymaster to buy stick on bruises and “nail through finger” bandages and running down to fool the local nurses at the taxpayerfundedwasteofimeNHS. They are so darn crafty these days.
This group of cat cervixes has obviously never heard of Battered Woman’s Syndrome or that fear of/real violence has always been under the voluntary manslaughter defence of provocation, but never before encapsulated the ’slow burn’ reaction that women often have when in abusive relationships. That’s the only way the law has changed.
Fucks me off. “OMGZ womens can get away with murder! :O”
Lots of people get a reduced conviction for murder, twatfaces, learn SOMETHING about the fucking law at least.
silly death, where’s the fun in people learning about stuff they’re going to have opinions on
Murder is murder, eh? I’d put some of my hard earned on the line and say that if you waved a Tony Martin-esq ’self defence’ case in front of these gibbering retards they’d change their tune.
Crossing threads a little here, surely they’d probably retort that Martin’s actions were more akin to exterminating vermin than self defence. After all its not like good anglo-saxon stock was involved.
Depressing yes!
Communist? Clever? Charming? cARING?
Which? Why didn’t you say? i’M TORTURED WITH kURIOSITY
TELL ME!!1!
Charismatic
Personally I see this as a victory for wimmins everywhere and I for one, cannot wait to knife my husband at the earliest opportunity.
Bull shit. Everyone knows it’s meat
surely it’s when mr and mrs hart get together
“Finally when self-defense is not considered murder” anymore,we’ll be able to protect vulnerable children,adults and the elderly from scum without having to go to jail!!”
completely not understanding the concept of ’self-defence’ there i fancy
but hurrah, hurry in this law and we can all start self-defencing paediatricians in their sleep. god bless zaNuLABORE justice. Tell ME!
The funniest part about all this z0MG SEXIST LAW is that it actually applies to both genders. It seems that the HYS usual suspects had their NANNY ALERT alarms turned up too high.
Silly wimmins. Who knew it was as simple as getting up and leaving their own homes, lives, belongings and children behind?
Yeah, but everyone knows that women can’t beat men with their tiny little hands and dainty arms. The concept of being violent is beyond their tiny little minds.
FACT!!?!1!
The only men that would benefit would be the dirty, dirty gays and they deserve to have the shit beaten out of them anyway.
Yet another FACT!11?!
And remember, those cells MUST be made of con[c]rete! When will the limp-wristed looy-left nanny-state FINALLY ADMIT that its politically correct bricks and mortar agenda has failed???? Tell me!!!
[BrutalistArchitectureFan],
Crewe.
It’s another blow for the white British male. Women are now allowed to murder their husbands at the mere suggestion of “Could you put the kettle on, dear” - but the white British male has no such right. Back of the queue again!
It says ‘Speedo’, my hand was over the S!
and cos you’ve got a hamster’s willy and no brain, Jethro, be fair.
I’d happily self-defence you for less than that and I don’t have to wake up every morning trapped in the hurricane of your halitosis.
What exactly is “mollycoddling” anyway? My LiberalCommieAtheistNuLabour Book of Victorian Slang leads me to believe that it might mean “cooking prostitutes in hot (but not boiling) water”.
They had the right ideas in those days.
Rape seems to get bad press all the time and yet statistically, 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape.
So ‘knifecrime’ is now a verb (to be honest, I’ve been using it as a verb for ages) and now the new word for killing someone is ’self defencing’.
Excellent.
That’s massively unfunny, fucko. Loving the rest of the comments, though.
And 50% of people enjoy a good knifecrime.
…in a proper jail, not the 5 star hotels they are kept in now.
I booked myself into one of those 5 star hotels the other week. Imagine my suprise when I woke up 3 days later completely bald with a pair of tits tatooed on my back. Still have trouble walking straight now.
I can imagine [speaking_my_mind] sat alone in his foetid, damp little bedsit consumed with envious rage over those mollycoddled ‘lifers’ while secretly picking out his ideal cell mate from a dog-eared copy of ‘Horse & Hound’.
38 comments and not one use of the complete phrase ‘ZaNuLiarBore FemiNazi Taliban.’ You’re slipping, people.
This is just MAD. Any fule kno that it’s only WIMMIN what leaves the tops off the toothpaste. A real, red-blooded MALE with an average-sized penis would never do anything like that. FACT!!?!1!!
But Mark_from_Wilts doesn’t tell us what happens when it’s wimmins knifecriming other wimmins? Perhaps that’s because he had no comprehension of what the law change is before he opened his mouth and drooled over his keyboard. Tell you what, I’ll give it a go with my mrs tonight and see what happens.
Helen - good luck!
I want it on record that I’m poopchute-raping Jethro Tull EVEN AS WE SPEAK. And I do so with impunity because I know no court in commie Nu-La-Briton will convict me when I stove in his face with the iron, just like Little Mo (the Vince Noir lookalike off of EastEnders) did that time. I only stay with him because I know he loves me really - he just gets this confused look on his fist every time I disappoint him with my black-eyed bloody-pulped feeble wifey routine.
If you like so-called ‘Domestic Violence’ so much, why don’t you go live their?, ect. You couldn’t make it up. Well, you probably could, but I bet you wouldn’t be drooling over your vile racist erection as much as I am right now. I blame the parents.*
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* and the forruns, the gays, and the blacks. And the Jews.
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Is it a rule that to use the sentence ‘What next?’ or any of it’s variations, you have to follow it up with the sort of scenario that even a paranoiac retard would be ashamed to write in shit on their cell wall?