Werthers Original Imperialists15 Jun 2009 09:33 am
By Alex

Thanks to RadiatorLizard. Do African women still need men? Quite clearly:

The word “Woman” means taken from Man. Technically, a Woman does not exist, or only as a piece or extension of Man. The concept of “Independent Woman” is absurd; moreover, she was created for man and as a last resort, because Man would not settle for the array of animals that was made instead. She is not a creation in its own right, like any other including Man, not an independent clay statue. She can only achieve superiority to Man in the afterlife by serving him first in this one.

alain, London

Of course, they didn’t speak English in the Garden of Eden, but as any Bibliolologist will tell you, the Hebrew word for ‘woman’ is derived from the א-י-ש root, meaning “otherwise useless bint God made to cook my tea and house my tiny peen once I get bored of humping oxen”. So you can tell that to your imaginary wife next time she wants the key to the imaginary padlock.

77 Responses to “You Hear Me Beyoncé? It’s Absurd! ABSURD!”

  1. on 15 Jun 2009 at 9:41 am Serotonin

    “Technically, a Woman does not exist”

    For Alain all women are a figment of his imagination. And a cause of his calloused hands and overly strengthened wrists.

  2. on 15 Jun 2009 at 9:53 am pigfrottage

    Alex, you are a genius. FACT!

  3. on 15 Jun 2009 at 10:13 am Living-off-your-license-fee

    Actually the etymology of the English word “woman” appears to be that it originates from the middle English word “wifman”, where “wif” is the old-english word for woman, and “man” is the old-english word for human (the old english word for man is “wer”).

    So yeah, the word woman has the word man in it, but the word “man” has changed its meaning.

  4. on 15 Jun 2009 at 10:15 am Alison

    Sigh. I had a boyfriend like this once.

  5. on 15 Jun 2009 at 10:22 am Oaf

    He needs hitting over the head with a tennis cue.

  6. on 15 Jun 2009 at 10:36 am jbd

    I know Nelson has mentioned it before but I find rather odd that alain thinks that the only reason women were created was that man was getting bored with having sex with the animals. So if say tomorrow all females where wiped out by some weird event, alain would grab the nearest animal and start humping it. What an odd man.

  7. on 15 Jun 2009 at 10:39 am jbd

    whoops, my mistake….I know ^Alex has mentioned….sorry about that, I really should pay more attention.

  8. on 15 Jun 2009 at 10:39 am Terry

    So in other words, it’s all down to old Adam’s general lack of imagination and creativity?

    “And on the eigth day, god invented Japanese tentacle porn and Dodo bukkake”

    There. Job done.

  9. on 15 Jun 2009 at 10:52 am Incontinentia

    “For if thou suckest Alain’s balls now, verily thou shalt have superiority in the afterlife (except when he is banging a goat or whatever)” Leviticus 12.23.

  10. on 15 Jun 2009 at 10:55 am john Adair's Gerbil

    I bet he’s a laugh at parties.

    “Wo-man, you do not exist, so you must serve ME!!! Worship my greasy hair and pimples or I shall smite your non-existence.”

    @Alison – lol.

  11. on 15 Jun 2009 at 11:06 am Barbs

    And the LORD God said, It is not good that Alain should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Alain to see which of them he would shag.

    And Alain gave it a goodly effort with the marmosets, made passes at the goats, and spent many hours chatting up a recalcitrant wombat; but none of the beasts of the field wanted to have sex with Alain.

    And from forth Alain’s rib the LORD God created Woman; and she took one look at Alain and decided to cleave instead with the penguin.

  12. on 15 Jun 2009 at 11:19 am dirigible

    I think he’s confusing Adam and Pan.

  13. on 15 Jun 2009 at 11:23 am Mim

    I think Alain is scared that the Dictatorship of the Matriarchy will find absolutely no use for him. Rightly.

  14. on 15 Jun 2009 at 11:23 am Ceannair

    @Dirigible – possibly, but the Christian view would be that he is a giant giraffe’s gonad sac.

  15. on 15 Jun 2009 at 11:25 am Felna

    @ jbd.

    It’s true though – in the bible it clearly states that Adam was unable to find a suitable partner amongst the animals of the garden so god put him to sleep and fashioned a partner out of his rib.

    This I think proves 2 things to the world:
    1 – The bible is a fairy story
    2 – Adam Wasn’t welsh, or he’d have settled for the sheep!

  16. on 15 Jun 2009 at 11:26 am pigfrottage

    And also a dingo’s danglies

  17. on 15 Jun 2009 at 11:41 am David

    I know it’s only because of the French name, but I picture Alain in a black polo neck, waving a Gauloise around and wondering why none of the other philosophes will talk to him.

    ‘Pah! The other existentialists never invite me to their threesomes! ‘Ow can I get them to take me seriously? I know, I shall write a witty post-stucturalist treaty proving that women don’t exist. Then EVERYONE will want to sleep with me…’

  18. on 15 Jun 2009 at 11:45 am Digger

    So -if I read the mental discharge of this prize Tapir’s clunge correctly – Wo-man means “taken from Man”. So therefore, in his own tiny little universe, a Woman equates to less than a man because she is “not quite a complete man”.

    So where the fuck does that leave Wombats?

  19. on 15 Jun 2009 at 11:46 am Kowalski

    But only the men, coz he has proved women dont exist, but even the blokes will have nothing to do with him,and he will be forced to rely on an elderly passing rat, as the only thing he can catch up with.

  20. on 15 Jun 2009 at 11:58 am Joe C

    Occasionally on this site, I’ll worry that we’re poking fun at genuine imbeciles or people with severe mental disorders. This is one of those times.

    Alain, I hope you’re getting the professional help you require.

  21. on 15 Jun 2009 at 11:59 am Joe C

    Not that he’s likely to read this, of course.

  22. on 15 Jun 2009 at 12:05 pm Mim

    Nah, Alain’s a basic misogynist Biblical literalist. They’re fair game. I hope, or my life will be a lot less amusing.

    Actually, mentally ill misogynists are still misogynists and can still fuck off.

  23. on 15 Jun 2009 at 12:13 pm Charles Darwin

    His argument has no flaw, his conclusions obvious in their truth. My life’s work was a waste. Good thing I’m dead already, otherwise I’d have to commit suicide from the shame of it all. How could I have missed that, of all the species, only Homo sapiens doesn’t have a female counterpart? Oh well, at least I no longer have to disguise my interest in orangutans behind the facade of scientific research. Bring on the hot Pongo borneo action!

  24. on 15 Jun 2009 at 12:16 pm Bit Special

    Please can I have just half an hour in a darkened room with Alain tied to a chair; just me, him, a cueball in a sock and a powerpoint presentation* explaining how all foetuses are female for quite a long time and males are created when a certain change doesn’t take place properly**, therefore making males technically malformed females?

    Sorry to be unfunny, but this shit is my academic speciality (I’ve seen data from gender scientists/specialists referring to the sexes as female and non-female, so significant is this fact). And Alain is a massive cunt and a mental. ‘Women don’t exist’? What am I, a simulacrum? Don’t get all Baudrillard on me, you hateful, bonkers, GodSquad fucktard or I’ll put on my pointy witch shoes and kick you to death with my metaphorical feet.

    Once I’ve got permission from my Dad, obviously.

    *I don’t actually know how to do these, but for Alain, I would learn.
    **I’ve way over-simplified this, of course.

  25. on 15 Jun 2009 at 12:25 pm Bit Special

    By ’so significant is this fact’, I mean, of course, the gender thing, not me knowing summat about it. Even I’m not THAT egotistical.

  26. on 15 Jun 2009 at 12:31 pm Mim

    Ah, Bit Special, we and our hairy ilk are clearly wimmin and thus in Alain’s world exist even less than women. I am not sure how degrees of nonexistence work, but then Making Sense doesn’t seem to bother him in any way. Nor do Science or Facts, so I suspect that your explanation would be lost on him, so perhaps you should skip straight to the ultraviolence.

    Apologies for assumptions of hairiness, obviously. I am sure you are as smooth and ivory-pale as the rib whence you were shaped.

  27. on 15 Jun 2009 at 12:48 pm Rod Wrongnob

    Woman doesn’t mean “taken from man”. It’s a pictographic representation of man+w+o (a pair of tits and a fanny). I am the first person who has ever thought of that.

    And thanks to Donna Kariati for her incisive comment:

    An African woman without a man is like an African fish without a bicycle.

  28. on 15 Jun 2009 at 12:52 pm john Adair's Gerbil

    @digger – Never mind the Wombats, what about the Wombles?

  29. on 15 Jun 2009 at 1:16 pm wringhim

    Don’t African women need men to cook in big pots and eat? Incidentally, the Hebrew word for woman comes from a root meaning to bore or penetrate, meaning if you’re Israeli you can rape and talk about getting your car engine tuned all you like with Biblical justification.

    An African woman without a man is like an African fish without a bicycle.

    Don’t they have African bicycles? Racialist!

  30. on 15 Jun 2009 at 1:20 pm sm

    If we’re laughing at creationist fucktards, and let’s face it what other way is there to respond to them, then Robert Mailloux should be considered:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8032641.stm

    To paraphrase:

    “Evolution has no substantial science [behind it]…the bible says God created the Earth in six days and we believe that”

    Clearly Robert has read Darwin and knows exactly what he’s talking about.

  31. on 15 Jun 2009 at 1:53 pm Digger

    @digger – Never mind the Wombats, what about the Wombles?

    Holy cunting fuck! I hadn’t thought of that!

    Alain has shaken my belief system to its core.

    *shakes head slowly, turns away with rapidly moistening eyes, sheds tiny tear for Madame Cholet (peace be upon her)*

    *sob*

  32. on 15 Jun 2009 at 1:56 pm Kowalski

    Roberts does indeed know what he is talking,and what he is talking is complete & utter bollocks, from start to finish. In fact every time he, or any other cretinist, opens their bible drolling mouth flaps, then we should have carte blanche to kick them repeatedly in the head before they can start spouting their drivel.

  33. on 15 Jun 2009 at 2:06 pm Moist

    Crikey, has anyone even looked at the rest of the thread for this subject?

    Alain is a pathetic giraffe’s lady flaps, yes, but the level of misogyny is surpassed by the others – a meeting place for African diaspora from around the world, apparently).

    See here

  34. on 15 Jun 2009 at 2:17 pm Charles Exford, Oxton

    Robert Mailloux presumably believes that Clement Atlee, Robert Stephenson and Ralph Vaughan Williams were also kings. Either that or he’s a rancid weasel quim, and I know which my money would be on.

  35. on 15 Jun 2009 at 2:21 pm Bit Special

    Amusingly, I AM ivory-pale. I also have girly hair, wear make-up and heart fashion and all that – but please don’t tear up my membership card to the Official Loony-Lefty Wimmin’s Club just yet, as I can’t be arsed with all the stoopid illogical hair-removing nonsense. However, as I am the world’s least hirsute adult, I don’t really need to bother, so it’s a kinda fluke-cheat. But enough of my personal grooming – I’ve gone off the pointy witch shoes idea now and am thinking I should just go oldskool with my DMs – what would you suggest?

  36. on 15 Jun 2009 at 2:22 pm Bit Special

    Erm, that was in reply to Mim.

  37. on 15 Jun 2009 at 2:59 pm Guesting

    Wombles? Wombats?

    Surely Womracquets.

  38. on 15 Jun 2009 at 3:09 pm numpty

    Alain is in good company: that thread is a goldmine. Or idiot-mine.

    “If woman do not need men, how can the future prophet and the scientists be borned. The west cannot still understand wonam should be docile and respect man, but they follow the opposite they bear terrorists and murderers.Let man leads and women follow . That is the only way to make the world a better place.

    sulayman babu, Raleigh, NC”

  39. on 15 Jun 2009 at 3:17 pm Throbbe

    Ms Special

    Not knowing Powerpoint is very much a good thing, especially when combined with actually knowing clever/interesting stuff. I don’t care about his business practices or any of the other reasons people hate Bill Gates for, I’d just like to string him up for encouraging people who should just shut the fuck up to tell us things instead, at length, with clip art.

    Actually, he’d also get a good stabbing for Project, but it’s less his fault than clueless ‘project managers’ who realise that they can draw really nice complicated diagrams, and then spend the next 12 months furiously trying to bend reality to achieve what their pretty picture tells them. Because the picture can’t be wrong, oh no.

  40. on 15 Jun 2009 at 4:02 pm This Little Pig

    Forget Wombles & Wombats – what’s to become of Womack & Womack?

  41. on 15 Jun 2009 at 4:08 pm Guesting

    Wombles, good in a crisis not so good in a sandwich.

  42. on 15 Jun 2009 at 4:36 pm Sid James

    My mental image of Alain is of Terry Scott saying “Wo-man” in Carry On Up The Jungle and drawing pictures in the sand. I feel a double-entendre coming on.

  43. on 15 Jun 2009 at 4:50 pm pigfrottage

    If he doesn’t believe in women then his argument is with Animal from the muppets.

  44. on 15 Jun 2009 at 4:52 pm Mr Cat

    Alex is being unfair here.

    I think its wrong to attribute Independent Women just to Beyonce… it was a hit for Destiny’s Child. I think Kelly and especially Michelle could do with a bit of credit too… Beyonce always gets the plaudits but they were a group.

  45. on 15 Jun 2009 at 5:47 pm outragedofbelmarsh

    Typical bloody men. Refusing to settle for the array of animals on offer. No wonder God’s so angry in the Old Testament.
    And the Lord spake unto Alain, “Fuck this goat.”
    “No”
    “Alright, what about this dolphin?”
    “Piss off”
    “This wombat’s well up for it”
    “Don’t fancy it. How about you take one of my ribs and, er, you know, create one of me, but with an extra hole and bigger titties?”
    “Bloody pervert! I’m going to smite you good and proper, you filthy bastard.”

  46. on 15 Jun 2009 at 8:58 pm Moley

    What a question. When and where in the world have woman never needed men? Men are the back bone to every strong nation, home, tent, and yes every damn bedroom. Women were brought into the world through men. And needless to say, men are the leaders, makers, intertainers, the overseers and yes, the ultimate creatures on earth. All women who say or think that men do not have a place in their lives are losers. Such women have themselves to blame for thier plights. And i say shame on you. Men rule.

    Samuel Memoh, Chicago, United States

  47. on 15 Jun 2009 at 8:58 pm Moley

    Oops

  48. on 15 Jun 2009 at 9:44 pm Gobbler the Oral Sex Alsatian

    alain would grab the nearest animal and start humping it

    woof woof woof
    drool drool drool
    pant pant pant
    slurp slurp slurp

  49. on 15 Jun 2009 at 9:46 pm Hitler's penis

    pant pant

    Down boy (or girl).

  50. on 15 Jun 2009 at 10:16 pm RecoveringMisogynist

    Bit Spesh:

    It it wrong to be so attracted to your angry ranting?

  51. on 16 Jun 2009 at 1:03 am Mim

    @RecoveringMisogynist: no it isn’t. Clearly.

    @Bit Special: having worn nice comfy vegetarian men’s shoes for several years I now can’t get my feet into the aberrations that are sold to women. Like one of the witches in that horrible book by Roald Dahl. It is a dangerous path, comfort. You will become unacceptable to Alain and that may just not be worth it.

    I am ivory-pale with sensitive skin and Arab levels of body hair. My decision to be one of that kind of feminist was largely influenced by the fact that if every single hair ingrows no matter what you do it is not remotely enjoyable.

    Maybe I could seduce Alain by claiming to be a monkey.

  52. on 16 Jun 2009 at 1:16 am westbootle baptist church

    congratulations, alain, as this week’s star bodoch, you win a whole entire year’s subscription to Elise Sutton’s Female Superiority website.

    it’s got pictures and everything.

    love and kisses,
    a well-wisher

  53. on 16 Jun 2009 at 8:18 am tegid

    @ sm

    Great link to the creationist fucktards. I know it’s like shooting (divinely created) fish in a barrel, but these are my personal favourites:

    “There are sometimes other explanations for things, I mean people thought the earth was flat”

    Yes – about the same time they thought God created the earth: let’s all move on

    “Why is Darwin buried with Kings at Westminster Abbey? He’s not a King. He’s the King of the Atheists’ movement”

    Ok, so he’s not a king, but he is a king. Got it.

    “If you don’t believe in Genesis, you don’t believe in anything else”

    Ok, they had some hits, but nothing should excuse them for launching Phil Collins on an unsuspecting world.

    “The father of three, from Chicago, was a business consultant when he “had an encounter with Jesus” and became a youth pastor”

    That’s how it starts…

    “It makes sense why people believe in evolution, especially if they’ve not had the encounter with Jesus I’ve had”

    An image of a dark alley, and Jesus swinging a cue ball in a sock spring to mind…

    Ho hum, I’m off to create some spreadsheets – not divinely, you understand; I’d be in trouble if I left an unnecessary appendix in it.

  54. on 16 Jun 2009 at 8:19 am tegid

    arse

  55. on 16 Jun 2009 at 8:25 am tegid

    1. @ sm
    Great link to the creationist fucktards. I know it’s like shooting (divinely created) fish in a barrel, but these are my personal favourites:

    “There are sometimes other explanations for things, I mean people thought the earth was flat”

    Yes – about the same time they thought God created the earth: let’s all move on

    “Why is Darwin buried with Kings at Westminster Abbey? He’s not a King. He’s the King of the Atheists’ movement”

    Ok, so he’s not a king, but he is a king. Got it.

    “If you don’t believe in Genesis, you don’t believe in anything else”

    Ok, they had some hits, but nothing should excuse them for launching Phil Collins on an unsuspecting world.

    “The father of three, from Chicago, was a business consultant when he “had an encounter with Jesus” and became a youth pastor”

    That’s how it starts…

    “It makes sense why people believe in evolution, especially if they’ve not had the encounter with Jesus I’ve had”

    An image of a dark alley, and Jesus swinging a cue ball in a sock spring to mind…

    Ho hum, I’m off to create some spreadsheets – not divinely, you understand; I’d be in trouble if I left an unnecessary appendix in it.

  56. on 16 Jun 2009 at 8:26 am tegid

    oh fuck it

  57. on 16 Jun 2009 at 9:18 am john Adair's Gerbil

    I must say, I do like the quotes from the HYSers in the US. Men rule, but it’s all women’s fault that terrorists and murderers get born. Who are, in the main, male. But it’s the womens’ fault.

    Which nicely sums up most religions.

  58. on 16 Jun 2009 at 12:56 pm mr Singh

    oy! not all religions! just the crappy ones. ahem. *you know who you are*

  59. on 16 Jun 2009 at 2:16 pm pigfrottage

    All are equal in my eyes, except Joy Pattinson and Nick Griffin, who are clearly inferior beings.

  60. on 16 Jun 2009 at 3:48 pm Far-Q

    I think we should all just back away from abusing poor Alain. He is clearly, as we not-really-psychiatrologists call it ‘A Bit of an Mentalist’. I mean:

    She is not a creation in its own right, like any other including Man, not an independent clay statue.

    What’s he trying to say, that even though men are real they are clay statues, but the women aren’t real because they’re not made of clay.
    I have a nasty feeling he wanks himself raw and bloodied over venus de milo every night.

    And so long as it keeps him out of the gene pool, who am I to argue with his behavior?

  61. on 16 Jun 2009 at 5:12 pm Mith

    You know, I think this whole thing probably flips a goodly proportion of the trigger switches for my Fucking Infuriated Mode. First we’ve got alain, who must be one of the western world’s leading throwbacks and wouldn’t deserve a capital letter even if he wanted one. He’s something you could quite easily recreate in plentiful detail in the first stage of ‘Spore’ if you played really REALLY badly.

    Further, he infuriates me – which is to say, he really, deeply and intensely fucks me RIGHT OFF – not only because of his own utterly mindless moronity (not sure that’s actually a word, but it’ll do), which in itself makes him deserving of an eternity of unremitting shoeing; but also because he in turn will provide a trigger for similarly reactionary fucktardery from the militant anti-men crowd who will cheerfully claim him to be representative of all males everywhere.

    And then, not only that, but he justifies his imbecilic, witless sphincter-squirt of an opinion by pointing at Genesis, which is an open invitation to every anti-religionist in the place to start laying into idiot ‘faith-heads’ on the basis that they must all surely believe what alain here seems to believe.

  62. on 16 Jun 2009 at 9:18 pm adam town

    Joy Pattinson… inferior being

    Oi! “Unknown Pleasures” is a classic of alternative rock.

    …oh wait

    also: alain is a twat

  63. on 16 Jun 2009 at 10:33 pm Mim

    Mith, you know that thing that happens on HYS where people make up a possible argument in their heads and then foam at the mouth about it?

    That.

  64. on 17 Jun 2009 at 1:32 pm Thim

    What?

  65. on 17 Jun 2009 at 1:56 pm Simon

    @Bit Special

    Powerpoint presentation *I don’t actually know how to do these
    ====================================
    don’t worry your little head over it. i’m sure some nice man will make the presentation for you. if you like, you can make a handout by printing it (he could help with that too) and adding glitter

  66. on 17 Jun 2009 at 2:10 pm Simon

    @Throbbe

    Not knowing Powerpoint is very much a good thing
    =================================
    LaTeX beamer FTW!

  67. on 17 Jun 2009 at 4:44 pm Ickle Bit Special

    @Simon – can I use my favourite pink Hello Kitty paper?

  68. on 17 Jun 2009 at 4:58 pm Thatcher's Onanism

    @bit special: just twat the old tosser repeatedly with a sackful of spare ribs, while showing him photographs of his mother.

    The pointy witch shoes are as bad as the doc martens if you ask me.

    Are you single by the way?…. ;)

  69. on 17 Jun 2009 at 7:22 pm Bit Special

    It’s Ms Special to all you inferior male scum.

    It is well-documented that I am sickeningly smitten with the long-suffering and downtrodden live-in he-slave known as The Young Fella (he being a lot younger than me), who, for reasons unclear to myself, reciprocates my affection. No other man could so jovially tolerate my clutter, shrewish bad temper, insecurity, moderate OCD and insistence on talking like Clay Davis from The Wire for hours on end. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeee-it.

  70. on 17 Jun 2009 at 7:37 pm S BAS

    “It’s true though – in the bible it clearly states that Adam was unable to find a suitable partner amongst the animals of the garden so god put him to sleep and fashioned a partner out of his rib.

    This I think proves 2 things to the world:
    1 – The bible is a fairy story
    2 – Adam Wasn’t welsh, or he’d have settled for the sheep!”

    Why? Can an all powerful God not make a woman out of nothing? Why did he need a rib?

  71. on 18 Jun 2009 at 11:03 am Simon

    S BAS – stop press! you may have found a flaw in the bible. i know it sounds unthinkable, but you’ve only gone and bloody done it. we must inform the president

  72. on 18 Jun 2009 at 12:25 pm Living-off-your-license-fee

    The Bible doesn’t actually say that God is infallible. At all. Anywhere in it.

    Also if you read your weird Hebrew myths (weirder than the ones in the Bible) you’ll find that God tried making a woman out of dirt first the same way he made Adam, but she was banished for refusing to “submit” to him. Eve was the second (in some stories the third) model.

  73. on 18 Jun 2009 at 12:51 pm Bit Special

    If men are clay statues, does this make Morph Jesus? And what of Chas – is he the devil? I need clarification!

  74. on 18 Jun 2009 at 12:52 pm pigfrottage

    I suspect it was an arm wrestling contest, that the first two kept winning.

  75. on 18 Jun 2009 at 8:25 pm Ed

    Obviously Chas is James the Just (brother of Jesus). Duhh…

  76. on 18 Jun 2009 at 9:11 pm Felix Castor

    Of course, they didn’t speak English in the Garden of Eden

    They fucking did.

  77. on 21 Jun 2009 at 9:32 am Mr. X

    I’m afraid I haven’t had time to read all the responses, so someone might have said this before, but–

    “The word “Woman” means taken from Man.”

    No, Alain, the word “woman” means “person with a womb”.