Outsiders and Racists15 Oct 2009 09:42 am
By Alex

Will dumpy-looking Ninja-women turn the Swiss flag into a big hedgehog? This is the question on everyone’s lips as the Schweizerische Volkspartei gets the green light for this inflammatory anti-minaret poster in Zurich.

SVP Poster

Anyone who is not against one of these noise blaring things must be deaf. Many of them use loudspeakers and the racket is horrible.

- jo, Canada

Some might say just ban or limit the loudspeakers, but they don’t realise how much that picture would look like bagpipes if the Swiss flag was tartan.

They are spot on.
Why should we have their mosques..Would they have our Churches Synagogues.?
I think not.

- Richard widmark, Newcastle uk

Trying to parse “Churches Synagogues”. Maybe “Churches Synagogues” are special Synagogues that are really churchesy. Has he missed an apostrophe? Does the Church have some Synagogues in reserve, just in case Jesus was shitting us all along? Or perhaps, more likely, Richard Widmark was typing in his best orator’s voice, and the deep breath and pregnant pause between the two didn’t come across in print. You also miss out on the earnest hand-gestures, and the bit where he leans menacingly on his keyboard-podium for “I think not”.

Zurich followed Lucerne and Geneva in arguing that the posters, which also feature a veiled woman with ‘menacing eyes’, were protected by free speech.

How ironic that in this country the BNP are slated for using the Union Jack as it is offensive to people!!! More power to the people of Zurich for standing up to the PC brigade that is blighting this world!! I want freedom!! Not just for the ‘alledged minorities’ but for ALL!!!!

- trevor, Perth

Well, except the minorities of course. At first I couldn’t see what was so ironic about all this, until I remembered the other sense of the word which just means ‘mildly inconvenient to the BNP’.

They have a perfect right to fight this type of alien, non European architectural intrusion.

- G. Forshaw, Preston UK

I agree. It sounds very uncomfortable. I’m clenching just thinking about it.

59 Responses to “Alien Intrusion”

  1. on 15 Oct 2009 at 9:50 am funny peculiar

    I read somewhere that The PC Brigade has links to Al-Qeada. I love the poster! Those minarets don’t look anything like long range missiles, so it’s OK.

  2. on 15 Oct 2009 at 9:50 am Dear Uncle Napoleon

    Three questions:

    1) See how those minarets look like missiles?

    2) Ever seen a mosque and a nuclear bomb in the same room at the same time?

    3) Where’s my tinfoil hat?

  3. on 15 Oct 2009 at 9:54 am Loztralia

    “Would they have our churches..?”

    Well, yes, actually:

    http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1203758178158&pagename=Zone-English-News/NWELayout

  4. on 15 Oct 2009 at 9:58 am Bit Special AKA La Spesh

    They have a perfect right to fight this type of alien, non European architectural intrusion

    Better knock down the Alhambra whilst they’re at it, G Forshaw. That’s been a Muslim architectural wonder at the heart of Europe since the 14th Century. Bloody ‘muzzies’, being so easily integrated into Europe for 100s of years; how fucking dare they?!

    Incidentally, I speak of the palace in Granada, Spain, not the theatre in Bradford. Though that’s quite nice too.

  5. on 15 Oct 2009 at 10:05 am chris

    Repeat after me ‘Islam is not a race, it is a belief system’.

    - Tim, England, 9/10/2009 5:40

    Repeat after me: “Islam is practised predominantly by and associated with one race. I am a cunt.”

  6. on 15 Oct 2009 at 10:14 am millie

    Looks like a vamp with come-to-bed eyes with a gaggle of dangerous dildos behind her.

  7. on 15 Oct 2009 at 10:18 am funny peculiar

    They have a perfect right to fight this type of alien, non European architectural intrusion.

    - G. Forshaw, Preston UK

    * Drive-thru fast food outlets.
    * Super-huge out-of-town shopping malls
    * Skyscrapers
    * Huge bloody Mormon churches and scientology centres
    * Theme Parks
    etc.

    I’m sure you hate all non-European intrusions. But you still took your unfortunate children to McDonalds last weekend, didn’t, Mr Foreshaw?

  8. on 15 Oct 2009 at 10:29 am chris

    It’s actually incredible that someone can be xenophobic about a building.

    Really? A building?

    You’ve got to admit, that’s dedication to the cause of being a twatbubble.

  9. on 15 Oct 2009 at 10:29 am Matt

    I’m trying to form a sensible sentence that articulates the amazingness of the Blue Mosque and why, along with Hagia Sophia, it’s one of the two most incredible buildings I’ve ever been in.

    I’m failing, because I get halfway through and think “cunts”.

  10. on 15 Oct 2009 at 10:34 am funny peculiar

    ahem….hagia sophia… ahem muted embarrassed cough… christian ummm romans ummm Constantine etc…

  11. on 15 Oct 2009 at 10:35 am Slavering Islamophobe

    Anyone who is not against one of these noise blaring things must be deaf. Many of them use loudspeakers and the racket is horrible.
    - jo, Canada

    I’ve gotta twitch of empathy there. Used to live right next door to a mosque in Allahland… Friday call to prayer; god-knows-when in the morning; over a wrecked, ancient tannoy on full distorted volume; delivered by an geriatric, bronchial Imam who always switched the tannoy on, before he hawked and hacked and coughed up his phlegm for a while.

    a lovely way to be ripped from your sleep.

  12. on 15 Oct 2009 at 10:59 am chris

    a lovely way to be ripped from your sleep.

    Could be worse. You could wake up to a cold, wet feeling on your forehead, and open your eyes to find Nick Griffin teabagging you.

    Noise pollution is one thing, but the other option is Griffin’s scrotum on your forehead. Think about it. I haven’t.

  13. on 15 Oct 2009 at 11:08 am That Bloke in the Corner

    My German is not that good, but the overall feeling I get from the poster, is that of a dodgy mullet wearing 80′s industrial band called Yes Stop, advertising their new single ‘the forbidden minarets’- if I am right.

  14. on 15 Oct 2009 at 11:12 am chris

    My German isn’t that good either, but I get something completely different. I get a German Islamic death metal band called The Forbidden Minarets advertising their new single ‘Yes, Stop’.

  15. on 15 Oct 2009 at 11:18 am Colonel

    “Menacing eyes” my arse, she’s bloody coming on to me!
    Coming over here, seducing us with their eyes…*grumble, grumble*

  16. on 15 Oct 2009 at 11:22 am Stoo

    I like the idea of ‘alledged minorities’. It implies that the non-whities are keeping tens of millions in sheds and basements to avoid it becoming clear they are actually the majority.

  17. on 15 Oct 2009 at 11:26 am Slavering Islamophobe

    It says, “Stop here for Botox Injections.” It’s an advert telling aging women to throw off their veils and be beautiful again through modern cosmetic medicine.

  18. on 15 Oct 2009 at 11:26 am Theodore

    The minarets might look like inter-continental ballistic missiles but their range has never surpassed a few metres.
    The Islamic architects have tried to overcome the problems of a stone-constructed missile by using lighter materials such as breeze blocks but unless you use engineering quality blocks, they will crumble by the sheer weight of the structure above and engineering blocks weigh nearly as much as stone.
    Word has it that the immams have ordered their architects to look into the feasability of creating a flying saucer shaped method of delivering a nuclear payload, disguising the saucer in the vast domes of mosques throughout the world.

  19. on 15 Oct 2009 at 11:45 am wringhim

    Islamic architecture invading western Europe? It’s been going on for decades. The pointed arch in Gothic architecture comes from middle-eastern Islamic examples, brough back by the Crusaders. And what’s the most famous Gothic building in the UK? The Houses of Parliament. Take a look at this window design for parliament and tell me there’s not a massive Islamic influence. They’re everywhere, even in the heart of our government!

  20. on 15 Oct 2009 at 11:49 am chris

    Some might say just ban or limit the loudspeakers, but they don’t realise how much that picture would look like bagpipes if the Swiss flag was tartan.

    Alright.

    Don’t say I never do anything for you.

  21. on 15 Oct 2009 at 11:50 am spungin imgrunt

    Even more shocking than the comments was this in the main article:

    The random survey by Swiss-based pollsters Isopublic was conducted among 1,007 eligible voters in the German- and French-speaking parts of Switzerland. The margin of error was given as 3.2 per cent.

    It’s the Daily Mail explaining where its statistics came from! Has the world been turned upside down? I’m writing an angry letter.

  22. on 15 Oct 2009 at 11:51 am Shackleton

    Good for Zurich. Constructions of this nature would not be complimentary to this western city but maybe the architects could still see their work contructed..in Tehran or Riyadh, where such creations seem to be popular with the inhabitants.

    - r d franklin, torquay, 09/10/2009 01:33

    A real life proponent of the SYB slogan!

    If you like Muslim architecture so much…

  23. on 15 Oct 2009 at 12:16 pm Car Bunckle

    The Schwarzenegger Volkspartei are making a valid point (even though they are forrins themselves). Every time I drive in to London on the M4 I close my eyes as I go past this monstrosity.
    Islamic architecture invading western Europe? It’s been going on for decades.
    Decades? Centuries, more like. I yearn for the days when it was all proper Ingerlish huts built by true Anglo Saxons.

  24. on 15 Oct 2009 at 12:17 pm Car Bunckle

    My blockquotes got swallowed.

  25. on 15 Oct 2009 at 12:40 pm random punter

    My blockquotes got swallowed.

    SYB – the site that swallows….

    Fucking Saxons, coming over here and polluting our Angles with their paganism. Bastards.

  26. on 15 Oct 2009 at 12:47 pm Justinian I

    @ funny peculiar:

    > ahem….hagia sophia… ahem muted embarrassed cough… christian ummm romans ummm Constantine etc…

    What the fuck’s it got to do with Constantine? That’s my baby.

  27. on 15 Oct 2009 at 12:47 pm Edwin

    If we are going to fight these Aliens, shouldn’t we enlist the help of space marines?

  28. on 15 Oct 2009 at 12:58 pm AndyS

    My german is so rubbish i presumed ‘Ja zum minarett-verboten’ meant ‘hammer time’

    i only know of one woman in switzerland. this poster has only one woman on it. Ergo, Joy Pattinson is being banned by Swiss nazis (almost as bad as Illinois nazis)

  29. on 15 Oct 2009 at 1:04 pm EAB

    The SVP (or the UDC – Union Démocratique du Centre, as they’re confusingly called here. They’re most certainly not democratic, in fact they expelled a senior figure from the party for winning a vote she wasn’t supposed to, and they’re a touch to the right of the centre) are fucking nuts. On the plus side, they’re actually on a downward trajectory at the mo as they’ve managed to tear themselves apart. On the down side, they still can get enough signatures to put forward ludicrous motions like this. It won’t pass, but I do think that someone should draft an identical motion calling for the end of church towers, as they serve the same purpose.

    Anyway, chris: that poster is brilliant. I’m tempted to print it out and stick it up around the place, just for the sheer confusion value.

    Some more parodies: http://www.lomag-man.org/europe_travail_schengen/images-propagandes-etrangers-suisse/mouton-noir-udc-heureux.jpg

  30. on 15 Oct 2009 at 1:09 pm millie

    SYB – a mass debating site that swallows. That explains why there’s more boys than girls.

  31. on 15 Oct 2009 at 2:28 pm Rod Wrongnob

    Is G. Forshaw a gangster rapper?

    “Yeaaaaa, I’za G fo’ sho’ mofos, shouting out to my homeys in the North End…”

    Yeah, well at least it’s not a willy joke.

  32. on 15 Oct 2009 at 2:49 pm Justinian II

    Justinian I

    @ funny peculiar:

    > ahem….hagia sophia… ahem muted embarrassed cough… christian ummm romans ummm Constantine etc…

    What the fuck’s it got to do with Constantine? That’s my baby.

    ……

    Hab anyone seen by dose?

  33. on 15 Oct 2009 at 2:52 pm millie

    Is G. Forshaw a gangster rapper?

    A racist from Preston in Lancashire. Yeah man, a hardcore gangsta rapper, for sure.

  34. on 15 Oct 2009 at 3:00 pm That Bloke in the Corner

    so where are these muslim hordes going to put all these mosques in Switzerland, it’s all bloody mountains.
    Do hope there is a planning application going through for one in Joy’s back yard.

  35. on 15 Oct 2009 at 3:03 pm That Bloke in the Corner

    Now I really am confused, the BNP are considering allowing efniks in. Who do we hate now? You cannot make it up, PC gone mad-FACT
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8308582.stm

  36. on 15 Oct 2009 at 3:12 pm Yossarian

    Just one of those beautiful querks of the universe I guess.

    Hopefully the entire non ethnic population of the UK will be applying simultaneously on Monday.

    Please send all non-ethnic application requests to Nick Griffin, BNP party headquarters…

  37. on 15 Oct 2009 at 3:23 pm ekcol

    “Repeat after me: “Islam is practised predominantly by and associated with one race. I am a cunt.””

    Repeat after me: “Brown isn’t a race. Only 20% of all Muslims are Arabs”.

  38. on 15 Oct 2009 at 3:38 pm Serotonin

    “Hopefully the entire non ethnic population of the UK will be applying simultaneously on Monday.”

    Wouldn’t that just be the best thing to happen?

  39. on 15 Oct 2009 at 3:56 pm Constantine The Great

    @Justinian

    Justinianople? I don’t think so, do you, matey? Besides, you married a whore.

  40. on 15 Oct 2009 at 4:03 pm Hadrian

    I,ve got a Wall. That any good?

  41. on 15 Oct 2009 at 4:30 pm Muhammed, Palestine (Not Israel)

    In 691, in Jerusalem they built a huge Mosque just to celebrate my phallus. The Dome of The Cock has stood for millenia, just like your Hagia Sophia. We should be friends. We are not savages. Not like those bloody Hindoos.

  42. on 15 Oct 2009 at 4:41 pm Apricot Split

    @ poster above; you’re not funny.

    Back on track: Can they build slim church spires, then? Just attached to mosques rather then churches.

    Following on from “spungin imgrunt”, I too was shocked at more accurate reporting in the same Daily Mail article, which stated that most of the Muslims in Switzerland are in fact European, mostly comming from former Yugoslavia (leave it Neil!). Still that didn’t inform the comments that followed or indeed that Swiss political Party.
    But just to reassure people that the Universe hasn’t changed too much, that Daily Mail article stuck this lovely link in the middle of the article:

    “How almost one in four people in the world are Muslim… and 1,647,000 live in Britain”

    Business as usual.

  43. on 15 Oct 2009 at 4:49 pm That Bloke in the Corner

    and 1,647,000 live in Britain”

    Is that all? Good, room for more then, that will swell the ranks of the BNP.

  44. on 15 Oct 2009 at 4:59 pm Red Andy

    Why should we have their mosques..Would they have our Churches Synagogues.?

    I must have imagined that church I went in when I was in Tangier last month, then.

  45. on 15 Oct 2009 at 5:05 pm Noel Edmonds

    British architecture under threat as Mr Blobby theme park falls into ruin – not just the best thing in the Daily Mail this year, but another story where the Mail commenters are much more sensible than the journalists.

  46. on 15 Oct 2009 at 6:18 pm spungin imgrunt

    This is from the Times article about the BNP accepting non-white members:

    glenn worthington wrote:
    Dear sir
    I expect to see from now on a impassioned plea from all ,that the Black Metropolitan Police Officers Assc.will now be forced to take white officers or if not white officers will be able to set up their own.Asian only swimming sessions ended now.

    Recommend? (44)

    Dear sir (not Madam)
    I expect to see you (and your 44 computer literate terrapin testes) accept that the BMPOA is not a political party. Asian only ridicule sessions in your living room starteded now.

  47. on 15 Oct 2009 at 6:24 pm spungin imgrunt

    @Apricot Split. I suppose after years of conditioning, the facts (as opposed to the FACT!!!1!s) just sail by without so much as a wave. There really are a lot of people living in a completely different world from the rest of us. I don’t know what it would be called; Maili or Mailasia perhaps – they sound a bit too forrin though. Perhaps Mailton or Mailsbury would be better.

  48. on 15 Oct 2009 at 8:16 pm Mim

    Islam is not a race, it is a belief system.

    Yup. Most of whose adherents have darker skin than Daily Mail readers. It is thus excitingly an opportunity to hate people of a variety of different vaguely brown ethnicities, while claiming that you are merely objecting to their ghastly illiberal beliefs.

    Sometimes I wonder what Islamophobes would do if they didn’t have that particular fib to hide behind. I suspect it would not end pleasantly.

    Minarets are pretty. Thus there should be lots of them. I probably need a better argument than that, yes?

  49. on 16 Oct 2009 at 12:14 am Danivon

    I once stayed in a cheap hotel in Amsterdam – in the area where you have all those lovely ladies in the window. Nearby was the Oudekirk, which had bells that rang seemingly every ten minutes.

    In fact, church bells generally are quite annoying. And Ice cream van jingles.

    So on that basis (using the logic of ‘jo, Canada’), we should not only ban mosques, but also rid ourselves of churches and ice cream.

  50. on 16 Oct 2009 at 7:10 am funny peculiar

    In fact, church bells generally are quite annoying. And Ice cream van jingles – Danivon.

    Ice Cream Van Jingles is that dutch, far-right politican, isn’t he? The one who made that controversial movie about mosques and muslims and stuff? You’re right, he is annoying…

  51. on 16 Oct 2009 at 8:52 am Stoo

    @mim. Do you have to use that horrible word “Islamophobes”

    If some people are really just racist – and the hating/distrusting Islam is just a cover – lets just call them cunty racists.

  52. on 16 Oct 2009 at 10:25 am john Adair's Gerbil

    Ice Cream Van Jingles is that dutch, far-right politican…

    LOL! Now that’s comedy.

  53. on 16 Oct 2009 at 10:31 am Pirate Pete

    The irony of this is that, in the east end of London where I live when I’m not at sea, in more places than I can count on one hand, the *only* attractive buildings in the area are the mosques and the churches – everything else is run-down and looks like shit

  54. on 16 Oct 2009 at 12:25 pm alt-f4

    Of course none of these bigotted cunts are actually in Switzerland. I am and I live 100m away from a fucking catholic church and the appalling din from their bells is incredible. If I played my hi-fi at the same volume I would be arrested.

    Church bells and minarets serve the same purpose – a call to prayer. If I had to choose between some religous wanker hammering chunks of metal together, or some other religious wanker singing some bullshit song, I’d go for the prick singing. At least it’s a human sound.

    In the interests of equality, on the other hand, I’d say what’s good for the goose…If the fucking christians are to be allowed to ring their bells then the muslims should be allowed to sing. Personally, I’d prefer to see both communities drowned in the lake such that we might all get a bit peace and freedom from the crazy rantings of imbeciles who think they are going to live for ever. And if they want segregated lakes to be drowned in, this would also be acceptable to me.

    Having said that, one should consider the question from the unique Swiss perspective. Their national flag does, after all, contain the christian cross and thus the symbols of christianity are even more deeply embedded into their culture than in other European nations.

  55. on 16 Oct 2009 at 12:48 pm Rod Wrongnob

    That blobbyland article in the Daily Hell is hilarious. Basically it’s saying the evil drug-crazed ravers planted saplings all round the buildings and rubbed mould on the abandoned furniture.

    Yes, the comments are considerably saner than the article itself. The technical term for this is a “bidisha”.

    P.S. G fo’ sho’ = G. Forshaw, not that it’s worthy of explanation, I know.

  56. on 16 Oct 2009 at 12:53 pm EAB

    Of course none of these bigotted cunts are actually in Switzerland. I am and I live 100m away from a fucking catholic church and the appalling din from their bells is incredible. If I played my hi-fi at the same volume I would be arrested.

    You clearly live in the wrong canton. Come to Calvinist Central – church bells are sinful Papist indulgences, and you should flog yourself for even hearing them.

  57. on 16 Oct 2009 at 6:17 pm cuntybuckets

    Actually, the Hagia Sophia was inauguarated by Constantius II, not the rather more famous Constantine the Great. Get over it.

    I’ll get my..oh, thanks.

  58. on 16 Oct 2009 at 11:58 pm chris

    I live in New Zealand, and no cunt bothers building churches anymore. Even though I live in the middle of the capital city, all I get woken up by is the sound of a tui singing outside my window.

    I already have my coat, but I’m not wearing it because it’s nearly summer.

  59. on 18 Oct 2009 at 5:23 pm Mim

    I like to think that they get very grumpy about it and prefer to be called Islamosceptics.

    I’m still trying to think of a better term to encapsulate pseudo-liberal barely-crypto-racist anti-Islam-because-it’s-a-bit-brown types (the racist/”Islamophobe” Venn diagram overlaps almost entirely but a lot of the time I do want to talk about them in their I’m-not-a-racist guise) but nothing quite cuts it. Bah.