Not Racism, Just Institutional Alienation
By GainsbourgMinarets yawn…
What rubbish some of you lot write. What religious freedom do those christians living in Arab countries have? Are there churches where they can worship – no – not allowed. Get your facts right before you write drivel. At least the Swiss get a choice. Most Europeans have to put up with decisions of politicians for their own selfish ends. Why else was the UK denied a referendum on the Lisbon treaty, and the Irish gov’t forced by the EU to hold a 2nd referendum. Democracy is dead in Europe!
Adam Smith, London
I’m not entirely sure who Smith is addressing here. In observing Proper BBC Impartiality, the HYS moderators have naturally ignored anyone not rabidly in favour of the minaret ban and filled the entire thread with the same post over and over, as if William Burroughs did 500 cut-ups of the same BNP leaflet and expelled them like half-digested coackroaches from an ailing gut clogging up the oesophagus of the internet. In fact, I like to imagine that the average HYS post is nothing more than the stream-of-consciousness fingerdribble of a smacked-up fuckhead. It’s the only explanation that doesn’t hurl me screaming into a fit of existential despair.
I have just been ‘somewhat surprised’ to hear the BBC’s reporter’s comments about religious symbols that might be acceptable, pointing to the Christmas tree behind her. I beg rather strongly to differ, but the Christmas tree is NOT a ‘religious’ symbol in any way, shape or form; Yes, it has been adopted by western societies to be part of our Christmas tradition, but it is no more religious than the Christmas card, pudding or cracker! So, please, let’s not get minarets and trees in the same boat.
Jerome, Redhill
Unless it was, like, a fucking really big boat, of course, like a cruise liner or one of them ones that planes go on. Then it might be alright.
Well done the Swiss! At last a strong message is sent to all those Muslim extremists who think that people are too passive to oppose the takeover of their country. Until when for every mosque built in a christian country a church in a muslim country is allowed to be built, muslims should not take freedom of religion as granted. That might help them to understand the true meaning of sacrificing your own space in the name of tolerance!
Marco Furlan
Woof! Holding all Muslims responsible for the actions and infrastructures of all predominantly Muslim nations, from Bosnia and Herzegovina, through Iran to Indonesia… That kind of talk could make a man erect. Not me, though. I’m not an idiot.
Minarets and religion are just symptoms of a problem. Let’s face the facts. It is a natural instinct of humans to defend and preserve their racial background, culture and history. Anything perceived as a threat to those qualities is regarded by most as invasive and obnoxious, and so it has been throughout history. Man-made laws to eradicate so-called “racism” cannot change human inborn instinct.
So the Swiss vote should not surprise anybody. It’s the way we are made.
[Anglobert], Surrey, United Kingdom
Governing societies on base human instinct! It’s so simple! Why did no-one think of it before?
Can someone tell me – Are you allowed to build a Cathedral in Mecca?
Allan, Afghanistan
HA HA HA HA HA. No matter how many times you see this same clever point reiterated clever point reiterated clever point reiterated like a stuck CD player in Hell, it never stops being utterly fucking fascinating.
Mind, I haven’t checked for a few days, but I’m pretty sure Switzerland is still not a place of particular religious significance for Christians. Try building a mosque in the Vatican, Allan, see where that gets you. Shot, hopefully.
Instead of banning minarets and headscarfs Europeans should ban immigration from Muslim countries, then the issue of cultural transgression will be moot.Half measures will not save Europe, otherwise 50 years later you will have to fight a Reconquista Yugoslavian style or convert to to Islam.
Nick, New York
Believe me, I’ve tried – Lord, how I’ve tried! – but I just can’t think of a response to this that doesn’t invoke Godwin’s Law. Try it for yourself – it’s impossible!
I tire of hearing what Muslims are or are not. They are what they demonstrate themselves to be–if they don’t want to be known as a bunch of genocidal fanatics, perhaps they should alter their behavior. If Swiss voters don’t want their skylines to look like Baghdad, then they have a right to say so. Brits take note–you’re so intimidated that you won’t even sing carols or put up a Christmas tree for fear of offending the Muslims.
sim, CARLSBAD
Jesus… If anyone needs me, I’ll be sitting catatonic in the chair by the window.
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‘And yea, it came to pass,that in the town of Bethlehem, Mary and Joseph did distribute the cards of greetings and pullethed the cracker of the Lord,and yea Joesph did a merry dance as the cracker bestowed on him the little pink comb of the lord’
Don’t know what Bible you are reading Jerome of Redhill, but yours is shit, mines full of Christmas Pud and crackers.
Despite his post, I reckon Jerome of Redhill will undoubtedly be pulling his pud at Christmas.
Well he definitely won’t be pulling a cracker…..getting coat
[blockquote]a Reconquista Yugoslavian style[/blockquote]
That may be the single funniest thing I’ve read in, like, time.
Fucking blockquote FAIL again, mind.
well quite, if you did you’d end up leaving the chicken with the fox and then where would you be.
it’s a minefield and no mistake
Bag. of. Shite.
I hate this fucking argument. So because places like Saudi Arabia and Iran are violently oppressive regimes without any real freedom of religion, we should be just like them! Brilliant!
There are single-celled organisms with more advanced thought processes than this camel’s quim.
Whereas sweeping generalizations that stuff me in the same rat-filled piss-hole as yourself are totally ok. What a cunt.
As a gay left-wing pederast, I am also a practising Muslim and anti-Semite, and I say, we’ll let the Christians build churches in our countries when there’s a MOSQUE in JERUSALEM!
Get your facts right before you write drivel!
I think the real problem for the Swiss is that every other country in the world has its own impressive or memorable architecture – the churches of Italy, the Kremlin in Russia, the Eiffel Tower and palaces in France, Germany’s fairytale castles, Japanese temples and pagodas, the mosques and palaces of Istanbul, the castles of Scotland, American skyscrapers, the Houses of Parliament, the windmills and canalside houses of the Netherlands – even Luxembourg is unforgettable if you see it. But what has Switzerland got? The ski chalet. They’re clearly just worried that anything a Muslim builds in Switzerland is going to be more interesting and memorable than the indigenous Swiss architecture.
Of course that doesn’t explain all the British fuckwits commenting on it. They’re just racist cunts.
I always assumed that Switzerland would have some giant, fuck-off clocks. Or buildings that could open wine bottles and act as compasses or… you get the idea.
What’s wrong with the xmas tree comment? seems fair enough to me.
I do giggle myself silly at this blog though. Keep up the good work!
Just remember to use angle brackets, OK.
This is scarily similar to that awesome Stuart Lee sketch about political correctness GONE MAAAAAD.
I do wonder about this one though. I’m yet to meet anyone who has been prevented from singing christmas carols or putting up a tree in their home. I have also never met anyone who has spent time languishing in jail having supplied their child with a conker and the words to baa baa black sheep.
Having said that, I’m not completely fucking mental. So that might have something to do with it.
If you click on the link and scroll down you can not see pictures of lots of non-existent churches. Non-drivel fact!1!
So the guy who runs my local late-night takeaway should stop being a genocidal fanatic? I’ll be sure to tell him that the next time I’m in.
*cough*Le Corbusier*cough*
What a cesspit of a thread. Still, this one has a certain mad poetry:
P.S. Cuger Brant has started posting on CIF, the big forumwhore.
Look on the bright side, the more comment boards he’s posting on, the fewer sub-Dan Brown novels he’ll have time to write.
Ohh, it is so tempting to get sucked into replying to these dirty donkey dicks, but with all of my will power i will resist the bait.
Instead I will just laugh the prospect of a non-christian Christmas this year, my Vicar will be disappointed.
So these Talabands, are they roaming Afghanistan playing tunes to the troops and generally getting down with their Baaaaaddddd selves.
Is it possible to have a sub-Dan Brown novel?
Oooh ooh ooh please Miss!
Cuger’s got a shiny new website too!
http://cugerbrant.co.uk/
Thats a fail on the work front this afternoon then!
Why not? I’m sure there are plenty of people who want to lock Dan Brown up, beat him and/or give him orders.
The Vatican is a modern irrelevance. If you’d stopped heckling when Mr Griffin MEP was speaking, you’d know that Engerland is the home of Christianity – we had indigenous Xians here millennia before those filthy Europeans had even heard of it.
I know! There’s absolutely no way the symbol of a Christian festival could be seen as a Christian symbol! No siree!
And because I hate myself, I decided to read the thread for myself.
I’m confused. Should we let the Scots be British or Scottish?
@ Marx & Sparx
I’m pretty new to SYB and haven’t heard much from Cuger. But thanks to you I just tried go on his website and I scrambled my brains, literally. I now have a literally scrambled brain.
Cheers!
Cuger’s on CIF?! Where?! Oh, happy daaaaaay!
I love the way Cuger quotes himself on his website, like one would quote a deep thinker or great writer. “It’s time we woke up to the reality of the situation” – Cuger Brant. “I like a rich tea with my cocoa, me” – Cuger Brant. “I was playing with my willy in the bath and some stuff came out – does this mean I am pregnant or gay?” – Cuger Brant
If Dan is the sub, is Cuger the dom?
for me the problem isnt minarets, they can put up as many as they like just as long as they dont put fucking loudspeakers all over them. if there is a genuine problem with muslims forgetting what time the call to prayer is maybe they should create an iPhone app with automatic reminders. iPray or something.
Where on CIF? Down near the bottom of this. I’m finding it works well in Richard Herring’s voice. “Who is the real expert?”, etc.
And from the minaret thread, this.
Typical Hindus. Hopeless at long-term traffic projections.
Cuger Brant just made me lose The Game.
Stupid memetic drift…
His chessboard/climate change analogy is a classic, though. Not only does it make no sense, but its very existence is actively compelling me to go an find new ways of polluting, just to upset the derranged little twatbasket.
[blockquote]Black Bishop = drought+ famine + disease——-White Bishop = Rain-forests.[/blockquote]
Seriously, WTF?
Hmm. Blockquote fail.
Sorry, I’m new. And none too quick on the uptake.
Thanks Rod Wrongnob – I like this from the Cugemeister’s comment on CIF “I am not trying to promote myself…”
Oh but you are Cuges! and quite rightly so, you blimmin’ little star!
I think my favourite CB quote is from
http://cugerbrant.co.uk/COAL.html
It’s like Stephen Harper’s comment is directly following on from what CB is saying! It’s not at all like he’s taking two sentences out of context in an attempt to lend credibility to his inane ramblings!
copypaste fail..
How does that even things out? It just means I’ve given something away, then someone else used my other hand to take it, presumably framing me for theft.
‘Sooger’ has always sounded in my head..
It should be pronounced “bell-end”.
Please insert the following letter into the above blockquote:-
“I”
sim from CARLSBAD is onto somethin’ here, methinks. Thanks to nu-lie-bore AKA al-queda British section, I’m actually afraid to eat mince pies, except in the middle of the night in a windowless room, preferably a cellar; lest I offend our muzzie overlords!!1!!!11!!!!1!1!!!!
At least I would be if I were a tigers tumescent todger like sim so obviously is.
sim from CARLSBAD is so obviously so full of his own self importance that he thinks he is Bin Ladens next target. Personally I hope he is and we lose another twatbasket out of the gene pool.
What he means is, as you’re giving something to the guy on the left (let’s call this a “hand job”), your other hand is receiving something from the guy on the right (let’s call this a “soggy biscuit”). Thus even when you’re giving something away, you’re left with an unpleasant taste in the mouth.
Fucking Swiss nazis, honestly…
I personally blame the Swiss Army Knife. Those mountain dwelling, genocidal, clog wearing, hedgehogs honeypots think they can do whatever they want, whenever they want.
ffs…
As to how ‘Cuger’ is pronounced – I like to think HE pronounces it ‘CugerrrRRRrrr’, seductively, with a quizzical raised eyebrow and maybe a knowing wink. Sort of like a deranged Eartha Kitt. At least, I really really hope he does.
Fucking shove it then
Why didn’t he go for Brant Cuger? That would be more euphonious (while leaving him still a complete bell-end).
I’m going to see 2012 later, to see how the world will end.
I’m betting that Muslims, gay marriage and immigration won’t feature very much at all.
Typical lefty-liberal PC Hollywood types, thinking they know best.
Sim? The only ‘Carlsbad’ that I know is in the Sudetanland in the Czech Republic. And nobody calls it Carlsbad anymore. In fact, it is universally known as Karlovy Vary and hasn’t been called Carlsbad since the Nazis were driven out. Yet you persist with its ‘Third Riech’ name. Why? (oh-oh, Godwin invoked)
@fp
No, there’s also a Carlsbad in California. It’s about halfway between San Diego and LA. I’ve been there, but didn’t stop.
I wonder how it’s possible to write something like:
and not realize you’re a massive racist.
I suspect Sim hates The World At War because the bad guys win.
Damn you, Godwin!
Berne has an area called Wankdorf, home to the Young Boys football club.
Just sayin’
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She’s the biggest bitch in the whole wide world.
She’s a stupid bitch, if there ever was a bicth.
She’s a bitch to all the boys and girls.
On Monday she’s a bitch, on Tuesday she’s a bitch,
On Wednesday though Saturday she’s a bitch,
Then on Sunday just to be different
She’s a super, king-kong, mega, mega bitch!
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Megan is a bitch and she’s just a dirty bitch!
Tcaaaaaaah!
Yeah, it was only brown people what died. Not real ones.
Muslim isn’t a race! Do you not even know that?
*switch to the voice of Peter Dibdin, driving instructor from Fist of Fun
Are you stupid or something? My nephew Chris knows that, and he’s only three! YOU CAN’T EVEN RELIABLY TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RACE AND A RELIGION!
I tire of hearing people having really nasty digs at Muslims in general, and then say it’s okay, it’s not racist because Islam isn’t a race, it’s a religion.
Yeah, fucking funny that most modern versions of the Qur’an are entirely written in Arabic, and Islam is the religion predominantly practised in bits of the world with brown people in them, while you wank on about how Britain is a Christian country with Christian values. Isn’t it.
Last time I checked, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Oman, Yemen, Sudan, Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Algeria, which all have churches, were Arab countries. And many of the Christians who worship in them are Arabs
Qatar opened its first church last year. What must the Qataris have thought? فمن الصواب السياسي جن جنونه. أول كنيسة ، ثم أنها ستريد الجزارين لحم الخنزير والاحد قبالة بدلا من الجمعة.
(It’s political correctness gone mad. First a church, next they’ll want pork butchers and Sunday off instead of Friday.)
Friday of instead off Sunday and butchers pork want they’ll next, church a first. Mad gone correctness political it’s
… surely?
Pedanticism isn’t funny.
No, but he’s technically correct: the best kind of correct.
Yeah, fucking malingerers. “Blah blah blah it’s not fair”, just because the local water is *still* poisoning them and their children, the site *still* has massive amounts of toxic waste dumped all over the place, people are *still* dying of the consequences of the accident, over 100,000 people are *still* living with serious illnesses and disabilities from the accident, and still nobody has been prosecuted for it. You tell them Megan. Really, you get up from your comfortable home in Cheshire and you go and personally tell them to their stupid whiny faces that they should learn to move on.
Yeah, she’s not reading this. It’s just pointless, self-indulgent venting. But still, what a fucking callous moron.
I’m pretty sure that Cuger is pronounced “Sugar”.
Sugar Brant. Sounds hot.
Can I just point out that on a stuck CD player, “clever point reiterated” would sound more like “cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl…”, what with CDs having a faster spin rate than vinyl.
Barely related but…
http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t15235.htm
Nice try, but it’s actually
It is political correctness gone mad. The first church, then they will want to pork butchers and Sunday off instead of Friday.
‘Shukran’, Google Translate.
@Curtain twitcher
Nice try, but he was making a reference to Arabic being written right-to-left. Sorry to have to award you an “irony fail”. Just doing my job.
Not a very good reference. He should have written it like this:
.dam enog ssentcerroc lacitilop s’tI’
tnaw ll’yeht txen,hcruhc a tsriF
ffo yadnuS dna srehctub krop
‘.yadirF fo daetsni
First a church, next they’ll want pork butchers and Sunday off instead of Friday.
Oh great, it’s reformatted the text, so it reads from left to right. Add a preview button, and one for HTML formatting, Nelson. Please.
<p align="right" .dam enog ssentcerroc lacitilop s’tI’
tnaw ll’yeht txen,hcruhc a tsriF
ffo yadnuS dna srehctub krop
‘.yadirF fo daetsni
.dam enog ssentcerroc lacitilop s’tI’
tnaw ll’yeht txen,hcruhc a tsriF
ffo yadnuS dna srehctub krop
‘.yadirF fo daetsni
Still doesn’t work!
The closest comparision for Switzerland is Dubai, where churches are allowed but may not build towers or ring bells.
But this cannot be mentioned since Dubai are official “good arabs”.
Saudi Arabia doesn’t allow churches at all, but they (also good arabs) are a fiefdom where the entire country is the personal possesion of a single western-backed family.
Iran, does allow religous a degree of freedom, as the 25,000 Jewish Iranians often confirm.
To really see the true idiocy of the Swiss ban one has to live in a catholic canton and be exposed for around two hours a day to their cacophonous belling. I live 200 metres from a catholic church and reckon quasimodo got a result.
When did you last see a cuckoo clock factory in Saudi Arabia? Eh? EH? It’s one rule for them…..
Damn, I missed my very own Arab-Christian thread!
iPray does exist, incidentally.