Armchair Generals and Delusions of Grandeur and Racists and Werthers Original Imperialists08 Feb 2010 12:11 pm
By Nelson

It must be tiring, logging into Have Your Say every day and trying to somehow twist the subject round to war. Imagine that you’re very, very good at fighting and love to chat about it (not that you fight very much, you understand… in fact, you never fight, but I bet you could… well, you could if you met someone reasonably short and unarmed.. who was quite tired… and you were half a mile away with a massive gun). Imagine you know a lot about battles, can name 12 kinds of tanks and have possibly painted upwards of 1,000 miniature soldiers (in the RIGHT colours for the period!). You’re going to want to tell the world a thing or two about warships and armies aren’t you? The last thing you need is another discussion about cervical cancer, A-level results or Susan Boyle isn’t it?

Well it seems that the HYS mods have taken pity on horny young war-lovers everywhere and created a thread where they can get it all off their bravely puffed-out chests. Come on little fellas. It’s your chance to shine.

A massive expansion of our Armed forces, this will create Jobs in high tech industries, with good export potential, bring in conscription for 18 year olds, 1 years service to learn self worth, discipline and a worth while trade, be it Cook, Medical, Electronics etc.
Enough resources to allow us to engage in to Regional Wars plus enough reserves for a 3rd emergency response.
Nuclear Deterrent based on SSN’s firing Cruise Missiles, similar to the converted US Ohio Class (SSGN)
Crusader, London

You had me at “massive expansion”.

1. stop fighting America’s wars, we had no help from THEM during the Falklands conflict, why should we care about their interests.

NOT TRUE: The US supplied us with the newest version of the Sidewinder AAM (AIM-9) that gave us an edge over the Argentinian AIM-7, also an Amphibious Assault Ship was put at our disposal incase one of our Capital ships was sunk or damaged.
Iraq & Afghan are the Western Worlds wars, or do you relish the thought of becoming a Shiara muslim State.
Jake, London

Dammit Jake. I was standing proud for a moment there, surface-to air, nearly ready to fire and then you had to go and bring forruns into it. Fucker. Now I’m looking down, somewhat wistfully, at a launch site suitable for a surface-to-surface attack at best.

The people who say we should never fight abroad are viewing the world through rose-tinted glasses. It is an absolutely excellent policy to fight your wars on someone else’s soil. Waiting until the enemy is coming up the beaches is far far too late! We nearly got caught out that way before. Defence sometimes does mean offence. How many lives would have been saved if Hitler had been stopped sooner? It’s easy to be all touchy feely when your protected, but don’t ignore human reality or history.
[numenius], England, United Kingdom

And let’s not forget the exciting world of espionage. We need to get spies in there stealing their secret chocolate recipes before they steal ours.

‘Scrap Trident.’
Jacques Cartier

Without Trident, our country would have no deterrent against invasion or nuclear annihilation. Scrapping Trident is NOT an option.
Paul

Eggsfuckingxactly. The Channel and the army might be able to save us from frenchy fuckers like Jacques, with his “kissing” and “garlic”, but if Godzilla turns up we’re gonna need nukes.

63 Responses to “Excitable Tank Recognisers”

  1. on 08 Feb 2010 at 12:23 pm papple

    ‘Western Worlds’……. he sounds like a Risk or Command and Conquer player.

  2. on 08 Feb 2010 at 12:34 pm jpr

    [blockquote]Imagine you know a lot about battles, can name 12 kinds of tanks and have possibly painted upwards of 1,000 miniature soldiers (in the RIGHT colours for the period!)[/blockquote]

    I don’t need to imagine it – I do, I can and I have.

  3. on 08 Feb 2010 at 12:35 pm jpr

    I am less clear about blockquotes, though …

  4. on 08 Feb 2010 at 12:37 pm jpr

    but if Godzilla turns up we’re gonna need nukes.

    Not true – we could either get Mothra on our side, or build Mecha-Godzilla. It worked for Japan.

  5. on 08 Feb 2010 at 12:40 pm Dave

    I hate these people, they’re probably the biggest wankers of the lot on HYS. Can’t believe that, despite decades of TV coverage showing how bad wars are and how they make lots of people die or suffer, people still get a massive Union Jack-coloured hard-on at the thought of the Our Boys going Arnie on a bunch of foreign types.

    Obviously they’d never sign up to fight in a war themselves, their IT support or Office Supervisor job keeps them from it. But were they not tied down with such responsibility, they’d be right there. Cunts. Utter cunts.

  6. on 08 Feb 2010 at 12:49 pm Bugrat

    ..or do you relish the thought of becoming a Shiara muslim State.

    Jake, London

    I don’t know, it might be quite amusing..

    http://www.shiara.com/

  7. on 08 Feb 2010 at 12:49 pm Mal

    Not true – we could either get Mothra on our side, or build Mecha-Godzilla. It worked for Japan.

    Typically NuLiarBore has devastated Britain’s Mecha-Godzilla building capacity leaving us wide-open to attack. It’s just another sign of this country’s sad decline under socialism that we must now look to the US to defend us from attacks by mythical monsters from the Orient.

  8. on 08 Feb 2010 at 12:52 pm Bugrat

    [numenius], England, United Kingdom

    Keyboard warriors do love their Latinoid usernames, I’ve noticed.

  9. on 08 Feb 2010 at 1:01 pm still can't decide on a name

    On the plus side at least he hasn’t written “England, not UK” which puts him at least one rung up from the pondlife

  10. on 08 Feb 2010 at 1:03 pm The Silent Majority

    Waiting until the enemy is coming up the beaches is far far too late!

    [numenius], England, United Kingdom

    But Iiiiiiiiii thought that ZaNuLiabore were already letting the enemy come onto the borders via mass immigration and having no border control!!111

  11. on 08 Feb 2010 at 1:08 pm Mal

    Another day,another Spaced quote…

    Mike: Well, let’s just say the last time I was in this situation, I wasn’t using a paintball gun.
    Paintball player: [in awe] You’ve seen combat?
    Mike: Yes, yes I have.
    Paintball player: Where?
    Mike: Umm, on the television.

  12. on 08 Feb 2010 at 1:09 pm The Silent Majority

    still can’t decide on a name

    On the plus side at least he hasn’t written “England, not UK” which puts him at least one rung up from the pondlife

    Or England, Not Brussels, England, Not EU, England, Not France, England, A Subub Of Brussels etc. Amazing how they make so many variations of the same douchebaggery.

  13. on 08 Feb 2010 at 1:11 pm Manly J. Panda

    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=7485&edition=1&ttl=20100208120927

    The BBC have laid their trap, baited it… Now we watch. Watch and wait.

  14. on 08 Feb 2010 at 1:18 pm jpr

    Obviously they’d never sign up to fight in a war themselves, their IT support or Office Supervisor job keeps them from it.

    Hey, how did you know I worked in IT support?

    For the military, oddly enough.

    It pays for the tank recognition handbooks.

  15. on 08 Feb 2010 at 1:32 pm That Bloke in the Corner

    Enough resources to allow us to engage in to Regional Wars

    About time we had some regional wars, can I suggest for a start Dorset and Hampshire, then whoever wins that one goes on to meet Sussex or Devon in the quarter finals?

  16. on 08 Feb 2010 at 2:08 pm Christonabike

    You’re right Manly J- it’s bristling with ever-increasing amounts of potential energy, working itself up towards an inevitable, disgusting crescendo. They’re nearly there, but not quite- like a car engine turning over but not starting. We await the glorious moment it roars to life.

    At the moment it’s mainly repeating what the story’s about, with the occassional little twitch like

    “When new laws are introduced through necessity they should automatically override common law whatever Brussels, Strasbourg or any other do-gooders think. If people do not like it they are free to leave.”

    and the occassional “This man should be stripped of his knighthood and sacked as a judge.”

    Plus I’m very much enjoying the work of Gabriel Oaks http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/profile.jspa?userID=16571325&edition=1&ttl=20100208130038

  17. on 08 Feb 2010 at 2:18 pm Bernard Bresslaw

    Herrherr. Nice one bugrat.

  18. on 08 Feb 2010 at 2:19 pm SoulBoy

    Thanks to Manly J Panda for highlighting that topic. I’ve already found poor spelling and grammar, the use of “knifecrime” and an “If you don’t like it why don’t you…” in one message courtesy of Stephen.

    Knives are knives and their is no place for them in any school or public place. Statistics also show a large chance of the cariiers knife being used on themselves in the event “knifecrime”
    Whatever your religion or beleifs, you obey the laws of the country you live in. If you dont like it then either live in a country that allows you to do what you want, or prepare to be prosecuted for breaking the law. Its a simple choice.

    stephen, Brighouse

  19. on 08 Feb 2010 at 2:34 pm ad ho

    Statistics also show a large chance of the cariiers knife being used on themselves in the event “knifecrime”

    Is that an Olympic event or one on Gladiators?

  20. on 08 Feb 2010 at 2:48 pm Hyssy Fitt

    Remove Islamic extremists from the country

    Rejected, Despite Not Breaking House Rules

    Best comment so far. And no house rules broken. Remember the 5th Columnists. I think we have some here to defend ourselves against.

    [Davidethics]
    Recommended by 166 people

  21. on 08 Feb 2010 at 2:49 pm Ugly Newt

    this will create Jobs in high tech industries

    [insert iPad joke here]

  22. on 08 Feb 2010 at 2:58 pm Grunton Burn, ZaNuTaxBore NOT Untied Kingdom

    “The 5 items one must carry – has anyone even thought of why they are supposed to carry them?! No offense, but this is ridiculous. Maybe when the Sikh religion originated this was necessary, but this is totally unnecessary in the modern societies. Apart from just blind faith – has anyone questioned why a sikh should be wearing a knife on him?

    [sunny_street], Milton Keynes, United Kingdom ”

    I love his idea that no thinkers of the Sikh faith have ever devoted any thought whatsoever to the meaning and symbolism of the Kirpan, aside from presumably the odd moment of surprise when they accidentally sit on the weird sharp thing that it turns out they’ve been carrying the whole time.

  23. on 08 Feb 2010 at 3:01 pm Philbert

    Waiting until the enemy is coming up the beaches is far far too late!

    [numenius], England, United Kingdom

    It was good enough for Winston Churchill.

  24. on 08 Feb 2010 at 3:31 pm Mr Cat

    It is not simply a matter of cutting costs.
    There are MASSIVE savings to be made through combining ALL THREE SERVICES, which is the only fair way to do things.
    I was associated with all 3 services for 34 years, and the amount of duplication which exists, although improved through wastage, is quite obscene.
    There are so many areas which could benefit by us having just a ‘UK ARMED FORCES’ instead of the old demarcation lines. It is a complete no brainer.

    [socialeper], Middlesbrough, United Kingdom

    If I was picking a name for myself I wouldn’t pick socialeper. It kind of takes the sting out of any argument – even one with lots of capital letters.

  25. on 08 Feb 2010 at 3:37 pm RT

    ad ho, Grunton Burn, ZaNuTaxBore NOT Untied Kingdom and Philbert – thanks a lot, I bruised a rib yesterday and I didn’t need you to make me laugh like that – it hurts, you magnificent, sadistic bastards

  26. on 08 Feb 2010 at 3:40 pm Doc Wrong

    [blockquote]If I said carrying a loaded machine gun was an article of my faith, would it be acceptable for me to bring it into public buildings, schools or even Buckingham Palace etc?

    I never thought I would hear myself saying this, but if a Sikh wants to carry a knife into a school where someone else could get hold of it and injure or even kill another person, I am wondering if this individual is living in the right country and would perhaps be more comfortable living somewhere else.

    Norman Cooley, Wandsworth, London [blockquote]

  27. on 08 Feb 2010 at 3:41 pm Doc Wrong

    bugger, still not got the hang of blockquotes

  28. on 08 Feb 2010 at 3:44 pm Jones

    About time we had some regional wars, can I suggest for a start Dorset and Hampshire

    Ah, you’re deliberately misinterpreting there, you wag! The proper regions are listed by this fella.

  29. on 08 Feb 2010 at 4:02 pm Cab Grunter

    Waiting until the enemy is coming up the beaches is far far too late!

    [numenius], England, United Kingdom

    Yeah, one minute you’re watching him coming up the beaches; then, before you know it, the Hoff is fucking your face.

  30. on 08 Feb 2010 at 4:06 pm That Bloke in the corner

    Old Harry there did miss out a couple though, no mention of spunging muzzies, chinks and towel heads to name but 3.
    Thanks for reminding me of that classic though-have to dig the vid out tonight.

  31. on 08 Feb 2010 at 4:08 pm Excitable Sherman Tankers

    Nelson,

    You’re “looking down, somewhat wistfully, at a launch site suitable for a surface-to-surface attack at best”?

    Count yourself lucky. I just dropped a depth charge.

  32. on 08 Feb 2010 at 5:16 pm marnarama

    [blockquotes]This is a truly frightening comment from someone who was once a(presumably) High Court Judge. Police figures indicate (at least in some areas) that knife crime is on the increase.
    Is this Knighted Judge in the real world?
    The Christian Gospels do not dictate this as part of their apparel; indeed, if a Christan schoolboy / girl was found carrying a dagger, they/their guardians would be open to possible prosecution.
    Let’s not discriminate: the law in the UK applies to all – Shieks included.

    N J Clayton, Greater Manchester
    [/blockquotes]

    Yes, but what about the Sikhs?

  33. on 08 Feb 2010 at 5:17 pm marnarama

    OK I have no idea how to do blockquotes. Massive fail.

  34. on 08 Feb 2010 at 5:34 pm EviltheCat

    OK I have no idea how to do blockquotes. Massive fail

    Gotta use my friend.

  35. on 08 Feb 2010 at 5:34 pm EviltheCat

    how odd, I meant to say: gotta use pointy brackets

  36. on 08 Feb 2010 at 5:58 pm Philbert

    Gotta use my friend.

    Does your friend know about this?

  37. on 08 Feb 2010 at 6:09 pm Alfredo Winnebago

    ‘Erm, hello, is that the military? I’d like to enquire about increasing my self worth please. I’ve been feeling a bit down recently and I thought that being physically and mentally fucked over for a few years by a pack of drooling fuckwits would be just the ticket to get me back on my feet again. Would there be an opportunity to kill someone, too? That would be just dandy self worth, here I come!’

    ‘Self worth’, brilliant. I can’t think of a better place to learn self worth than the military, ‘Hey you limey faggot, get down and give me 20!’ ‘Ah, I felt my sense of self worth sky-rocket when my commanding officer wiped dogshit om my shoulder as I was doing press ups’.

    Or is the point that you realise the true value of your ’self’? i.e fuck all. I was under the impression that the primary success factor of military units is evident: they’re units, not a military collection of individuals ruminating over their self worth.

    ‘Hey, we got a problem those damn gooks again! No problem, send in the crack unit of guys with a high sense of self worth’.

    Fucking douchbags.

    Maybe the point is that they achieve such an inflated sense of self worth that they can wipe out ‘worthless’ brown people.

  38. on 08 Feb 2010 at 6:16 pm Alfredo Winnebago

    ‘Looks like there’s been another suicide at a barracks again.’

    OFFICIAL CAUSE OF DEATH: TOO MUCH SELF WORTH

  39. on 08 Feb 2010 at 6:21 pm Alfredo Winnebago

    This might be a rumour, but I heard that if you go for an interview for the Army there’s only one question:

    OFFICER: ‘ARE YOU A BROKEN, MISGUIDED WORKING-CLASS YOUTH WITH NO CONFIDENCE AND NO SENSE OF DIRECTION OR PURPOSE IN LIFE?’

    YOUTH: ‘ERM, I THINK SO’

    OFFICER: ‘GOOD, GOOD, WE CAN USE YOU. NEXT!’

    YOUTH: ‘WHAT!?’

  40. on 08 Feb 2010 at 6:32 pm Bugrat

    On the other hand, relaxing this rule may may mean people who would like to carry a knife, but shouldn’t may think of applying to become Sikh – for all the wrong reasons.

    Alli, UK

    I wanna do knifecrime and that, so I just sent off an application form and fifty quid to the Sikh Registration Agency in Swansea for a Sikhing Licence.

  41. on 08 Feb 2010 at 6:43 pm Clovis Sangrail

    OT a bit but I did like this: Gay uranium in Iran evidently, and the USA ain’t happy. or something.

    “Why shouldn’t Iran have nuclear capability? Israel, India, and many other countries which are no more stable than Iran have the capability. Another case of the USA trying to impose it’s homophobic prejudices on the rest of the world and, to my shame, with this country’s backing!

    [tazlaw], Canterbury, United Kingdom”

  42. on 08 Feb 2010 at 6:55 pm Massive Propagating Bee Extinction

    From the brown people knifecrime thread:

    Does this mean I can wear my Dirk when wearing my Kilt as it’s part of my Highland heritage without fear of arrest for having an Offensive Weapon or can I play the racism card ??

    Eckyboo, Edinburgh

    Oh, I bet he plays that card a lot anyway.

  43. on 08 Feb 2010 at 6:58 pm Massive Propagating Bee Extinction

    The US constitution says American’s have the right to bear arms. Do US tourists in London demand the right to carry a gun?

    Obviously not. When in Rome….

    Max D, London

    You avoid the public toilets? You substitute speaking Italian for speaking loudly and slowly in English? You wander around calling everyone “wops” because you don’t think they know what you’re talking about? WHAT??? WHAT IS IT YOU DO IN ROME???

  44. on 08 Feb 2010 at 7:23 pm Philbert

    Does this mean I can wear my Dirk when wearing my Kilt as it’s part of my Highland heritage without fear of arrest for having an Offensive Weapon or can I play the racism card ??

    Eckyboo, Edinburgh

    You can already do that – I’ve had mineout in public loads of time (oo-er)

  45. on 08 Feb 2010 at 7:35 pm Ed aka Ghost of Cuger-Jaggar, PhD

    @Alfredo Winnebago

    Or is the point that you realise the true value of your ’self’? i.e fuck all. I was under the impression that the primary success factor of military units is evident: they’re units, not a military collection of individuals ruminating over their self worth.

    Would you say you had “issues” at all?

  46. on 08 Feb 2010 at 8:23 pm Any Rand will do

    I wanna do knifecrime and that, so I just sent off an application form and fifty quid to the Sikh Registration Agency in Swansea for a Sikhing Licence.

    That licence isn’t for knifecrime, it’s to permit you to fly a Sikhing Helicopter.

    S’alright, I didn’t take it off.

  47. on 08 Feb 2010 at 8:29 pm Welsh boy

    (blockquote)Enough resources to allow us to engage in to Regional Wars (/blockquote)

    (blockquote) About time we had some regional wars, can I suggest for a start Dorset and Hampshire, then whoever wins that one goes on to meet Sussex or Devon in the quarter finals? (/blockquote)

    All very well but Cornwall would thrash them in the semis as usual

  48. on 08 Feb 2010 at 8:29 pm Welsh boy

    hurrah first blockquote failure – i feel like I’ve come of age!

  49. on 08 Feb 2010 at 9:44 pm EviltheCat

    Gotta use my friend.

    Philbert

    Does your friend know about this?

    Hey, give a cat a break. I get my owner to type, the dog to point and click, and the immigrunts who live downstairs to keep me in good supply of catnip.

  50. on 08 Feb 2010 at 9:45 pm EviltheCat

    wibble

  51. on 08 Feb 2010 at 10:48 pm Fucko the clown

    God this thread made me fucking rage, i’m gonna have to stop coming here, it can’t be good for my heart to want to slaughter these people…

  52. on 08 Feb 2010 at 11:19 pm umopapisdn

    Which one of you is responsible for this nugget?

    if you go to a seik country you are told to “cover up” or go home if you dont like it …….knives are banned in this country , how rediculas this man is wanting to send kids to school with knives, NO !!! and if you dont like it TUFF! go and live in a country that will let you, and see how long you last

    john, manchester

  53. on 08 Feb 2010 at 11:26 pm Bugrat

    Does this mean I can wear my Dirk when wearing my Kilt as it’s part of my Highland heritage without fear of arrest for having an Offensive Weapon or can I play the racism card ??

    Eckyboo, Edinburgh

    We had similar bollocks years ago when Sikhs were allowed exemption from wearing crash helmets (because of the turbans). Closet racists outraged that they too weren’t given the right to risk (supplementary) serious brain damage.

    I think the law about carrying knives says you have to have a good reason for having one when you’re out and about, so religious ceremonial attire would probably fall into that category anyway. “Because it goes so well with my tattoos” probably doesn’t.

  54. on 08 Feb 2010 at 11:46 pm Obiwan Kenobi

    When I think of the number of times I’ve been arrested for carrying an offensive light-sabre. No amount of hand waving and explaining that it’s part of my religion works. And now these forrins are getting away scot free? Bring back the Empire, that’s what I say. Oh hang on…

  55. on 08 Feb 2010 at 11:53 pm Red Bren

    Minorities will not be minorities much longer and each of them have traditions and beliefs that are incompatible with western values and traditions.

    Ian Baildon, Bradford, United Kingdom

    I don’t think Ian got many gold stars for his maths homework.

  56. on 09 Feb 2010 at 1:38 am teh

    Added: Monday, 8 February, 2010, 20:35 GMT 20:35 UK

    It’s highly probable then that Kirpans are being carried by many Sikhs right now but under their clothing and out of sight. That’s a worrying thought. The Judge has now alluded us all to this new fact.

    Rob

    Thank you for alluding me to this new fact Rob.

  57. on 09 Feb 2010 at 1:39 am teh

    …bollocks

  58. on 09 Feb 2010 at 3:43 am Excitable Sherman Tankers

    I love it when people allude me up. Makes me feel all slippery. Helps with the tanking.

  59. on 09 Feb 2010 at 8:55 am smallhelmet

    @bugrat

    We had similar bollocks years ago when Sikhs were allowed exemption from wearing crash helmets

    That was a bit different. They were already campaigning for the right to choose what they wear, and risk their own lives if they wanted to. They just used the turban issue as a stick to beat the government with.

  60. on 09 Feb 2010 at 8:57 am smallhelmet

    My first post, and I nearly got the blockquotes to work!

  61. on 09 Feb 2010 at 9:26 am Grov

    “being physically and mentally fucked over for a few years by a pack of drooling fuckwits”

    HYScamp. Send your kids.

  62. on 09 Feb 2010 at 11:11 am jpr

    working itself up towards an inevitable, disgusting crescendo

    Isn’t the working up bit the actual ‘crescendo’, and the bit it gets to a ‘climax’?

    Or am I just pedantic *and* incorrect?

    Shall I just get back to painting soldiers in historically correct colours?

  63. on 09 Feb 2010 at 4:53 pm szaleniec1000

    [quote]How many lives would have been saved if Hitler had been stopped sooner?[/quote]

    Hearts of Iron II is not a substitute for actually studying history.