Miscellaneous Prats and Outsiders and Permanently Bewildered and Plain Weird and Self-appointed Sages13 Aug 2010 08:58 am
By Dizzy

Something about UFOs. Should we take them more seriously? Probably. It’s like HYS. You’re desperately looking for signs of intelligence, but all you find is a paranoid bunch of ballaches going on about the same things over and over and over again.

These alien visitation people are usually very boring and very mental – so much so that these deluded idiots going on about space aliens and probes are just too much for JohnH. Let’s get some science rolling. Some long, windy, science.

Let me explain the science as simply as possible.

You are on a fairground ride, the ‘waltzer’ being spun around very fast. You cannot move your arm, why? Newtons Law of Thermodynamics. A body accelerating increases in effective mass (weight). Go then on the swinging boat thing, as you swing back and forth you feel a lightness in your stomach. This is due to decelerating and a reduction in effective mass (weightlessness).

Now; send up a rocket and travel faster and faster. There has to be a limit and it is the speed of light. Travel at the speed of light (SoL) and you weigh infinity. So if you can only travel at or near SoL it would take 5 years to reach the nearest star and 200 years to reach the nearest S3 planet (its all to do with diameter and distance from a sun – try and keep up!).

So; if aliens are here they have found away to travel by other means. ALL science fiction writers know this. That is why StarTrek uses warp speed, StarWars uses hyperspace, Issac Assimov wrote about traveling in Parsecs etc.

If aliens are here, and its a big if, their technology is so far ahead of ours that to explain it would be like trying to explain the workings of your computer….. to a slug.

And yet.

They are supposed to have ‘crashed’ a spaceship at Roswell in the 1950′s.

So an alien technology that dwarfs ours rides around the skies like a boy-racer on a saturday night.

I don’t think so.

Remember what Hannibal Lectur said in ‘silence of the lambs’…..

“What is it in it’s self”

UFO’s are exactly what it says on the tin, an Unidentified Flying Object.

We do not know what it is and it’s pointless guessing.

Finally, a childrens poem about 5 blind men and an elephant.

None had seen an elephant (obviously) but knew it to be different from all other animals. So they went to find an elephant, and when told one was in a field they each intern approaced it.

The first grabbed it by its tail ‘its like a rope’

The second grabbed a leg ‘its like a tree’

The third touched its side ‘its like a wall’

The fourth grabbed an ear ‘its like a fan’

The fifth grabbed a tusk ‘its like a spear’

To conclude – each went their way, each to sing their song, but though the were all partially right, they were all completlly wrong.

With less to go on than the blind men lets stop guessing shall we?
JohnH

That’s some serious scientific reality there. After getting through that BSc material, I’m feeling about as real as you could possibly get. Normally I float around the place in a daze, but “Newtons Law of Thermodynamics” grounded me like a drunk pilot. Accepting the advanced knowledge of Gene Roddenberry and George Lucas in making shit up took me a step closer to accepting cruel, atomic level reality; and when I got to Isaac Asimov – sorry, Issac Assimov – “traveling in Parsecs” I definitely knew I existed, because I lost control of my bladder. But if I was in any doubt as to how real things could get, the elephant poem effectively cut off my balls and stuffed them in my ears.

I’m very glad I’m real, and not just some kind of massive cunt squatting in someone’s febrile imagination.

I find the subject of UFO’s as funny as the site ‘speak your branes’.
The former do not exist (they are just unidentified flying objects) not flying saucers. QED: Figments of your imagination.
The latter do not exist (they are just dullards who need to learn the English language) being figments of their own imagination.
reflector2

Oh, no! Everything I thought about myself was wrong! JohnH had me believing it, and now reality has been pulled from under my feet like Peter Venkman pulled out the tablecloth from under the flowers in Ghostbusters! Remember that? They caught ghosts, though, not aliens. Ghosts are real. “And the flowers are still standing!” Hilarious. They were in the dining room of the hotel, and they were looking for Slimer? And they had those awesome particle streamers? They were real. Weren’t they? Weren’t they… oh, n-

71 Responses to “Reality Testing”

  1. on 13 Aug 2010 at 9:30 am Any Rand will do

    What about the Clangers then? For all his fancy-pants “science” JohnH totally fails to explain them. Maybe he should consider Ms (not Doctor) Gillian McKeith’s Laws of Planetary Motions. What a flabby ferret’s funslot.

  2. on 13 Aug 2010 at 9:41 am Rogue_Leader

    We do not know what it is and it’s pointless guessing.

    Well, that about wraps it up for science fiction then.

  3. on 13 Aug 2010 at 9:42 am Felna

    Richard Sweeney wrote:
    Easier said than done. Any genuine UFO sighting is quickly covered up by the New World Order (compromising of the Bush Administration, The Onion and Wikileaks founder Julian Assange) and YouTube videos are simply modded down as fakes by said group.

    I’m not sure if this guy is joking or not…

  4. on 13 Aug 2010 at 10:05 am Bolli

    So anyone engaged with this site does not exist yet Dr Lecter (a figment of Thomas Harris’s mind) is not only real but an accepted academic reference?

    Please inform Nurse immediately, Relfector2 has escaped his bed.

  5. on 13 Aug 2010 at 10:10 am Jim

    Reflector2 whipped out a QED, QED Reflector2 is a big pile of cockmarmalade

  6. on 13 Aug 2010 at 10:10 am john Adair's Gerbil

    reflector2 – doing more to publicise SYB than john Adair…

    English and logic lessons incoming.

    UFO’s do exist by definition. They are Unidentified Flying Objects. Then they get Identified, and turn out to be Venus, or a top secret flight out of Area 51.

    So, that which you have demonstrated as figments of the imagination are not, in general, figments of the imagination.

    Your second point is confusing. If I don’t exist, how can I have an imagination, never mind be a figment of it?

  7. on 13 Aug 2010 at 10:16 am Oaf

    It’s a pity there wasn’t a sixth blind man who could have formed an opinion based on feeling the elephant’s trunk.

  8. on 13 Aug 2010 at 10:22 am Paul

    Brilliant.

    First we have Mr Science who has managed to create a fusion of Newton’s Laws of Motion and the Laws of Thermodynamics (well, there’s three of them innit?) – he should get a Nobel prize for that.

    Then we have Mr Grammar berating us for poor use of the language. Has he not read any other entries on HYS? Not exactly OED material…

    Good advert for the site though!

  9. on 13 Aug 2010 at 10:27 am unitled

    I think his hybrid of relativity and classic mechanics is far more interesting… I mean, he obviously knows about things like accelerating close to the speed of light increases mass.

    But I’m not sure I want to go on a fairground waltzer which is spinning round at relativistic speeds…

  10. on 13 Aug 2010 at 10:34 am BifidusDigestivum

    Untitled – try to keep up, it’s all to do with diameter.

  11. on 13 Aug 2010 at 10:37 am BifidusDigestivum

    Where did all the comments go? Fuck, I think reflector2 might be right.

  12. on 13 Aug 2010 at 10:58 am Rob

    “And yet.”

    Is this the purest expression of self-importance yet seen on HYS? The brevity of the pomposity, the fact that he’s able to distill all his Cuntitude into two words, is breathtaking.

  13. on 13 Aug 2010 at 11:33 am santasmonkey

    re: Oaf

    In the actual poem they do feel the trunk. I know, it shocking, JohnH didn’t quite remember it right. It’s also a poem explicitly about religion, because after all, we’re not totally blind to science.

    Poem can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/3yagmhl

  14. on 13 Aug 2010 at 11:57 am Oaf

    Excellent. So there is a sixth blind man and some trunk fondling just as I suggested there should be.

    It’s strange that someone trying to remember the details manages to totally forget that elephants have trunks. I know it’s not their main feature, that would be….. err….. well, I can’t remember at the moment.

  15. on 13 Aug 2010 at 11:58 am Jones

    If aliens are here, and its a big if, their technology is so far ahead of ours that to explain it would be like trying to explain the workings of your computer….. to a slug.

    And yet.

    They are supposed to have ‘crashed’ a spaceship at Roswell in the 1950′s.

    My computer crashed today. Somewhere there’s a bunch of slugs looking smug. QED, or something.

  16. on 13 Aug 2010 at 12:24 pm phil@vvb

    “And yet”.

    “If I’m right.”

    It all fits, don’t you see, people? Don’t you SEE?

  17. on 13 Aug 2010 at 12:25 pm t'otherone

    they each intern approaced it.

    What company offers internships to blind people involving the fondling of exotic animals?

    A NuLiarBore quango that’s who! Wake up people -your taxes are paying for this filth!

  18. on 13 Aug 2010 at 12:29 pm Ugly Newt

    You cannot move your arm, why?

    Because the elephant will break your wrist if you try that again.

    JohnH was only visiting the funfair (and petting zoo) because his breathtaking misunderstanding of relativity had got him barred from every pub with a pool table.

  19. on 13 Aug 2010 at 12:39 pm Frot Leer (2C)

    try to keep up, it’s all to do with diameter.

    Actually, I think physicists prefer the term “girth”.

  20. on 13 Aug 2010 at 12:41 pm Frot Leer (2C)

    Clangerwank. Blockquotes are fail.

  21. on 13 Aug 2010 at 12:57 pm RIPOFF BRITIAN

    (its all to do with diameter and distance from a sun – try and keep up!)

    In his mind, JohnH is addressing a crowd of thousands of admiring people in a sort of huge lecture theater/temple.

    These admirers are less intelligent than JohnH, so he can say things like “try and keep up!” and “And yet” to them, but not stupid enough to be unable to understand his insights and appreciate them.

    And yet.

    Outside his mind, no one ever, ever, pays any attention to what JohnH has to say; instead they look at him with contempt and disgust as soon as he enters their field of vision, and proceed to avoid eye contact, backing away, and discreetly shielding their kids from him with their bodies.

    Cunt.

  22. on 13 Aug 2010 at 1:08 pm Ugly Newt

    That thread has brought our attention to attracted some high-calibre unmarked helispotters. Check out Richard Ralph Roehl (bet that’s not his real name). He may look like he’s getting close to the big conspiracy…

    the main-$tream corp-rat media [...] humankind (a.k.a.: ewe-man-unkind)

    …but when he ditches the word games for a moment, it turns out he’s just a self-important hydra’s hole like the rest:

    The BBC is
    notorious for editorial censorship; let’s see if they can accept this
    morsel of truth and common sense.

  23. on 13 Aug 2010 at 1:11 pm Stop the wars and so on

    If I were not a mere figment of my own imagination I would be hunting down reflector2 with a pair of pinking shears to ensure he was unable to further pollute the gene pool.

  24. on 13 Aug 2010 at 1:14 pm Ugly Newt

    Arse. My devious nut-baiting <s> tags didn’t get through. Now *I* look like I’ve got delusions of grandeur.

  25. on 13 Aug 2010 at 1:14 pm Undemocratic Speed Bump

    I enjoyed JohnH designating Speed of Light the acronym SoL, and then only using it once. What a silly twat (ST).

    I think the phrase, “but though the were all partially right, they were all completlly wrong.” about sums it up.

    Just going on yesterday’s thread for a second, was Barnard also reflector2? If so, that was a twist I did not see coming. Excellent. He was a bit of a ST.

  26. on 13 Aug 2010 at 1:36 pm Toffee

    Nuts to you JohnH PhD, Assimoff didn’t know nothing. My ship did the Kessel Run in 12 parsecs and I’ve got the plastic medal to prove it. Then I whacked Greedo, the forrun bastard.

  27. on 13 Aug 2010 at 1:38 pm Undemocratic Speed Bump

    @ Ugly Newt

    High-calibre indeed, Triple R is a re: eel fine-duh (real find):

    How should a wedding be celebrated? Or $ell-lie-be-ratted? There is a difference

    Nope, I can’t see it.

    I think the clean up efforts engendered from the WOUND in the Earth’s crust are both foolish and feckless. THIS DISASTER MAKES ME THINK HUMANS ARE LIVING ON THE TITANIC… AS IT $INKS OFF THE COAST OF EASTER ISLAND! Give it some thought.

    Think of it.

    Is it important to get historical facts right? After reading George Orwell, I would think so!

    The Road to Wigan Pier was chocka with badly researched history.

    Afghanistan-NAM and Iraq-NAM, like Viet-NAM and KKKorea-NAM, are a total waste of blood and treasure. They are wars waged by the ruling class for the $ake of profits… and the people too often fall for the $cam.

  28. on 13 Aug 2010 at 1:39 pm eleanora_

    @USB – both Barnard’s and reflector2′s postings set off my state-of-the-art Brant Detector, so I suspect that they are not only one and the same, but they are also Cuger Brant… amazing!

  29. on 13 Aug 2010 at 1:43 pm Undemocratic Speed Bump

    Ah, that’s a lovely theory, but I think Cugar Brant would be happy posting on here. He is worshipedly revered after all.

    Plus, he’d post under the name Urgent Crab or Grub Trance.

  30. on 13 Aug 2010 at 1:51 pm MightyMil

    JohnH’s anal probe is on the move again.

  31. on 13 Aug 2010 at 1:51 pm Huge Firmly-Wankingsock

    @eleanora_ I fear you are becoming dangerously obsessed with Mr C. Brant, you see him everywhere, you post in the style of his prose, soon you will become him. Maybe this is how he reproduces.

  32. on 13 Aug 2010 at 1:54 pm Bill The Lizard

    From 14 April 2009:

    There needs to be some major changes with the editorial staff.

    Frankly… I’ve had enough. This is my final posting (#3333) with the BBC. Good-bye!

    RICHARD RALPH ROEHL

    And yet… and yet.

  33. on 13 Aug 2010 at 1:56 pm Kris

    Urgent Crab or Grub Trance

    I see someone else has been watching a lot of Countdown since that blonde lass replaced Vorder Man.

  34. on 13 Aug 2010 at 2:02 pm eleanora_

    @Huge Firmly-Wankingsock – that’s a terrifying theory – I expected Cuges to reproduce in the style of The David, but what you suggest is altogether more impressive… *shudders*

  35. on 13 Aug 2010 at 2:08 pm DonkeySquicker

    Should speeding fines be based on income?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2010/08/should_speeding_fines_be_based.html

    Good old Ian cheese gives us the short but sweet answer:

    Speed is safety!

    Researcher 197029 is a povvo:

    A speeding fine is supposed to punish someone, so at the moment a poor person is punished more for speeding than a rich one, so potentially yes – speeding fines should be based on wealth.

    and qwerty thinks he is well off:

    Absolutely not. The punishment should be exactly the same, no matter what the wealth of the individual.

    and keeps getting caught speeding:

    People caught doing 35 in a 30mph zone should be given a verbal warning and told to go on their way more carefully.

    But lewis fitzroy knows the truth – the swiss are in the pay of David Cameron!

    “The Swiss hide illegal money for the world-wide super crooks, but when they come to collect it, they get a speeding ticket with a big fine. Sounds like a Con/Dem tax to me will they have a free bar of cocolate or a clock, as a gift on payment?.

    Unterminated ” there lewis.

  36. on 13 Aug 2010 at 2:11 pm funny peculiar

    I find the subject of UFO’s as funny as the site ‘speak your branes’.

    I had no idea UFOs were so hysterical.

  37. on 13 Aug 2010 at 2:14 pm BifidusDigestivum

    I’m going to get the word ‘Clangerwank’ into a conversation this weekend even if it fucking kills me.

  38. on 13 Aug 2010 at 2:17 pm TrumpsCombOver

    “Do try to keep up as I get science wrong! You fucking peons!”

    What an axe wound.

  39. on 13 Aug 2010 at 2:19 pm Ugly Newt

    I’m going to attempt to offer somebody a bar of cocolate without getting a punch in the mouth.

  40. on 13 Aug 2010 at 2:34 pm funny peculiar

    “Do try to keep up as I get science wrong! You fucking peons!” TrumpsCombOver

    Sorry TroopsCombOver but if you knew your Science-stuff, then you’d know JohnH is not wrong.

    ‘S only fair to point out, that JohnH comes under the special category defined by Wolfgang Pauli when refering to a particularly ‘original’ student’s work. In a moment of frustration he once blurted,

    “Not only is it not right, it’s not even wrong!”

    JohnH to a tee, I think. QEND

  41. on 13 Aug 2010 at 3:17 pm DonkeySquicker

    QEND? Quantum EntropoNewtonion Dynamics?

  42. on 13 Aug 2010 at 3:33 pm Ugly Newt

    QEND? Quantum EntropoNewtonion Dynamics?

    QEnd Of.

  43. on 13 Aug 2010 at 4:47 pm RIPOFF BRITIAN

    Are you sure RRR is not a parody of every cunt trying to appear clever with idiotic sub-tabloid level puns?

    I find it hard to believe that someone honestly thought that “ewe-man” and “$ell-lie-be-ratted” are cool and make people smirk and nod in agreement and approval instead of shaking their heads in disbelief and weeping bitterly.

    Think of it.

    I say we have been trolled.

  44. on 13 Aug 2010 at 4:52 pm christonabike

    @DonkeySquicker Think I’ll pass on the coclate, thanks.

    I like the idea of some of that illegal money, mind.

  45. on 13 Aug 2010 at 4:57 pm Undemocratic Speed Bump

    @RIPOFF BRITAIN

    Nah, the guy is American. Nuff said.

  46. on 13 Aug 2010 at 5:26 pm Pirate Pete

    For an in-depth understanding of the issues here, I recommend listening to the last episode of the Gateworld Podcast. They went into a tedious discussion for almost an hour about whether the Destiny travels through normal space or hyperspace. I’m sure the folks on their forum would be much more likely to engage JohnH in meaningful discussion. He’s just wasting his time lecturing the plebs on HYS about space and stuff.

  47. on 13 Aug 2010 at 7:22 pm Sheepless

    Did those five blind blokes not have a sense of smell?

  48. on 13 Aug 2010 at 8:12 pm random punter

    Remember what Hannibal Lectur said in ‘silence of the lambs’…..

    “What is it in it’s self”

    Nope – missed that bit.

    The first grabbed it by its tail ‘its like a rope’

    The second grabbed a leg ‘its like a tree’

    The third touched its side ‘its like a wall’

    The fourth grabbed an ear ‘its like a fan’

    The fifth grabbed a tusk ‘its like a spear’

    The sixth grabbed the scrotum ‘its like a JohnH’

  49. on 13 Aug 2010 at 8:15 pm random punter

    …..whatever does the refresh-thingy after posting a comment on here is well fucked.

  50. on 13 Aug 2010 at 8:16 pm Yourockyourule

    Oh the irony with the prating about shit you haven’t seen – I love it

  51. on 13 Aug 2010 at 9:41 pm tw@basket.com

    Speed is safety!

    When beating a retreat from those idiots, yes, it probably is.

  52. on 14 Aug 2010 at 12:53 am Quo Vadis, Pleb.

    Quod erat non demonstrandum

  53. on 14 Aug 2010 at 9:35 am Long time reader, sometimes irritant

    @Quo Vadis, Pleb.
    Demonstrate THIS:

    Procul is tempus in vesper , eo amo labor lapsus a Caramac sub squirrel

  54. on 14 Aug 2010 at 9:37 am Long time reader, sometimes irritant

    *ego

  55. on 14 Aug 2010 at 9:48 am Theodore

    From this day onwards I will cease blaspheming. Instead when faced with towering stupidity (and so on), I will exclaim John H Cunt.

  56. on 14 Aug 2010 at 9:53 am Theodore

    83. At 2:27pm on 12 Aug 2010, JohnH wrote:
    The thing I don’t understand is all the people who claim to have met or had contact with ‘aliens’ all talk about being ‘probed’ you know where.

    Why?

    I have watched all those wonderfull David Attenborough TV programms about lions in Africa and NEVER once did he put a probe up a lions fundement.

    I’m guessing it would put the lion right of it’s stride.

    You try it next time you run for a bus, I bet you don’t catch it.

    There again if you do your eyes will stand out so far they proberbly wouldn’t let you on.

    John H Cunt!

  57. on 14 Aug 2010 at 10:04 am Ceannair

    There just are no words to describe John H’s mental issues.

    So let’s go with cunt, seems to work.

  58. on 14 Aug 2010 at 10:17 am Ceannair

    Oh God:

    108. At 9:42pm on 12 Aug 2010, Simon Harpham wrote:
    “Is age just a number?”

    No. It’s also a concept.

    “Should Capello allow Beckham to carry on playing?”

    I don’t know anything of importance about football, so pass.

    “Should Princess Anne pass some of her engagements to other younger royals?”

    I don’t know anything of importance about royal engagements, so pass.

    “Who should decide how old is too old to work?”

    Me. I should. Me, me, me, me, me.

  59. on 14 Aug 2010 at 10:20 am eleanora_

    Looks as if Simon Harpham is carrying on the good work of [dennisjunior]!

  60. on 14 Aug 2010 at 11:42 am passerby otter bollock

    Have you hosted re-ass-flector2 here before? He seems to have a bit of a grudge, the pathetic pet’s penis.

    I don’t know if somebody has mentioned it in the comments, but why JohnH didn’t mention “Warhammer 40k” when shit-talking about Warp travel? When a systems failure turns a starship into Event Horizon, that shit has to be mentioned.

  61. on 14 Aug 2010 at 7:26 pm Bugrat

    @RIPOFF BRITAIN

    Nah, the guy is American. Nuff said.

    ‘Amerikan’ if you please (a usage which, along with the rest of his drivel, suggests he isn’t a troll, but rather somebody who got bashed on the head during the Grosvenor Square riots in 1968 and has only just come round).

  62. on 14 Aug 2010 at 9:30 pm funny peculiar

    the Grosvenor Square riots in 1968

    Sorry, I’m a bit hazy on this bit of history. Were they the riots about foreign, immigrant nightingales coming to London and refusing to respect the appropriate London squares which were clearly designated for nightingale song?

    /oblique

  63. on 15 Aug 2010 at 1:53 am Dizzy

    passerby otter bollock

    Have you hosted re-ass-flector2 here before? He seems to have a bit of a grudge, the pathetic pet’s penis.

    I don’t know if somebody has mentioned it in the comments, but why JohnH didn’t mention “Warhammer 40k” when shit-talking about Warp travel? When a systems failure turns a starship into Event Horizon, that shit has to be mentioned.

    To be fair to JohnH, the perils of black holes are covered in Star Trek, so it would have been superfluous to mention the Sam Neill factor.

  64. on 15 Aug 2010 at 1:35 pm ad ho

    UFO’s are exactly what it says on the tin, an Unidentified Flying Object.

    But not all UFOs are made of tin. Some are made of quitescarceium and notmadeupium. I am beginning to doubt JohnH’s scientific credibility.

  65. on 15 Aug 2010 at 5:04 pm passerby otter bollock

    @dizzy

    I rest my case, then.

  66. on 15 Aug 2010 at 5:15 pm Ed aka Voltaire

    @ad ho

    You fool. He’s not saying they’re made OUT of tin. He’s saying they come IN tins. That’s why the radars can’t see them.

  67. on 15 Aug 2010 at 7:20 pm ad ho

    B-but if they’re packed in tins with labels that are absolutely accurate, then how can they be unidentified? This has blown my tiny mind. Truly the universe contains wonders beyond the ken of man.

  68. on 15 Aug 2010 at 7:56 pm Arthur C. Clarke

    @ad ho
    Aye m’lad. It is indeed the biggest mystery since the disappearance of the Bermuda Triangle. Ooaahhrr me hearties!!

  69. on 15 Aug 2010 at 8:02 pm Ed aka Voltaire

    You can only see them if you wear a TIN-foil hat. That’s why JohnHalfwit wears one, anyway.

  70. on 16 Aug 2010 at 4:06 am Sir Alf Ramsey's Porn Dungeon

    Over on the “Is Germany leading a European economic recovery?” thread,Ossie wrote:

    Long live the Eu Eh!
    How
    why
    when
    Over crowding
    No jobs
    the same as britian but!!

    I cannot work out if he’s drunk, mental or channeling Mark E Smith… suggestions anyone?

  71. on 16 Aug 2010 at 8:52 am Matt

    Like the “S3 planet” bit, a term which has only ever existed in one episode of Red Dwarf. Once.