Good news, writes Sarah Boseley on her Guardian blog. Recent trials have shown that hundreds of thousands of children’s lives could be saved each year in Africa and Asia with vaccines that Westerners take for granted. And guess what? The G8 is committed to doing just that. No-brainer, innit?
Ah, except there’s a problem, see. Because the G8 is also committed to treating and preventing HIV and AIDS in Africa and Asia, and – curse you, cruel God! curse your balls! – there’s only so much money that the world’s largest economies are willing… sorry, able to spare in order to save the lives of poor brown people.
So where does the money go? On the one hand, reducing child mortality would ordinarily be an absolute priority for any civilised nation. On the other, diarrhoea lacks the glamour of AIDS.
But wait, says koushixinfei: we’re asking the wrong question. We shouldn’t be worrying about which preventable diseases to treat in the developing world, but whether we should be treating them at all.
The economics doesn’t work. Save a child in Africa now and in 20 years you have another 3 to 5 to save, you need to price that in. A vaccine which saves a child for 10 USD today, will imply another 30 – 50 USD in a generation. Pestilence and Civil war is the african choice to manage population growth. I’m not sure we should be imposing science and engineering on them, any more than they should impose pestilence and civil war on us. And yes, it is us and them if you are going to use the language of “donor nations”.
koushixinfei
Yeah, this saving lives thing is all well and good, but in this post-ideological age, surely pumping billions of dollars into helping people who – let’s be brutally honest here – contribute nothing to the global economy is just a bad investment?
And who says they want to be helped? We have our medicine and technology and infrastructure, they have their disease and child soldiers and rape. We should respect their culture, fucking leave them to it, save the money for other things. Like rats, power tools and Huey Lewis and the News CDs.
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I don’t think pestilence and civil wars are “choices” exactly…
Whatacunt
I was going to be boring and factual, and point out that by improving the health of people in poor nations, recent science suggests that you will increase their average IQ, which will improve their economies, which will mean they can pay for their own vaccines as well as buy the things that the West exports (you know: Pop Idol, dodgy financial ideas, Barbie dolls).
But then I decided to just call koushixinfei a vulpine vuvuzela.
ps Why isn’t the comment form filling in the Name and Mail fields automatically now?
We should apply the same logic to the unemployed. Don’t give money to those work shy scroungers or they will breed even more work shy scroungers. Just let them die off.
What a terrible cunt. Presumably Famine and Death are on their summer holidays?
an impressive feat of combining, most of the worst aspects of humanity in one handy repugnant vestibule, if only they’d managed a little misogyny they could have been that little bit closer to the complete package.
deana
If not THE complete package, this guy definitely A complete package.
@Lurker – Famine has had that gig for a while now. I expect it gets a bit tedious after a while. Rumour has it that as a change of pace, he’s moonlighting as a top fashion designer.
While the evul liberals are giving the smug gits a run for their money over on the blog, I do wonder about those commenters who are so self-centred and selfish that they take an accident of birth (born free in a wealthy country) as a divine right to be an arsehole.
@ Andy
Good Omens reference, no?
Oh and koushixinfei is a cockwomble’s cockingclanger’s cock.
I am wondering whether koushixinfei is just some would-be amateur satirist who thinks he is channelling Swift’s Modest Proposal. If so, he certainly isn’t very good at it.
I’m struggling to decide which is worse – believing that the right thing would be to leave millions of African children to die or a Huey Lewis and the News CD.
He makes a compelling argument. I am compelled to find him and kick him in the nads until he can never reproduce.
What utter nonsense. Effective foreign policy is all about intervening in other people’s civil wars and making them worse.
Recent scientific evidence suggests that if we all just ate mashed taro roots then those poor, stupid Africans will be smarter. The economy, of course, will sort itself out after that because smarter people have better economies.
No it doesn’t. You’re just talking rot now.
@Sir Alf Ramsey’s Porn Dungeon – indeed, sir. (But I wouldn’t ask about Death, if I were you – he’s gone a bit perculiar. Rumour has it he’s been spotted posting on HYS…)
Whatever. Using his logic, we could infer that a criminal will breed more criminals, so it’s counterproductive keeping alive anyone who’s ever been convicted of anything. And I’d bet that our dear “koushixinfei” has, at least, been told off by his teachers. Or he might have received a speeding ticket. Let’s see his logic applied on himsel…
Balls, no! I forgot: we never apply our ideas to ourselves. We’re not good racists if we do that.
Something for the weekend, sir? We have ‘regular’, ‘ribbed’, ‘bubonic plague’, and ‘AK47′.
koushixinfei is the biggest narwhal’s nad in history. What an unfeeling, callous, heartless turdbag. I suspect he is actually a Vogon.
Oh, it’s just beautiful
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/16/immigrants-ice-cream-sharks
Gems include:
and
Pure gold.
It reeks of I’m not racist, buttery…
…or in short: “if I’m not allowed to insult queers, then I should be allowed to insult foreigners *AND* you shouldn’t be allowed to insult me”.
Eugh. Heading below the comments line on a CiF article about immigration. If I end up killing myself, please throw my corpse through the window of an HYS commenter of your choice.
Holy goose growler, an opinion piece that begins with an opinion then tries to back it up with evidence?! Well I fucking never.
Seriously though, haardvark is, like, really bloody clever you know. Maybe if he posts enough really bloody clever things on CiF the editors of the Guardian will see how bloody clever he is and let him write the columns, like he obviously should be doing.
IN 2002 YOU BLIND CUNT. Learn to fucking read before you start being a smug prick.
Ah yes. All that suppression of debate. I definitely remember that happening, and it not being a total retrospective fabrication.
Can’t you SEE? Can’t you SEE what is happening to our ONCE GREAT nation? We are a broken, shackled mess. Years under the dictatorship of *cough*a repeatedly elected*cough* Labour and their PC regime have stopped us from saying what needs to be said;
THIS VAST INFLUX OF SOME-BROWN-PEOPLE MUST BE HALTED. NO LONGER CAN WE SLAVE UNDER THE BURDEN OF SOME-BROWN-PEOPLE.
Look out your window! Look at the chaos! It might seem that you are looking at a calm, balmy day in a quiet street but that is the beauty of Labour’s lies! You have to train yourself to see what is really happening. You have to train yourself to see some-brown-people.
I asked for some of this in Spar today but they only had “Stinks of Utterly-Butterly”
I Can’t Believe It’s Not White People?
The comments seem a little slow today. Perhaps this is just all too depressing for a Monday?
We could discuss sandwich fillings instead…
Or maybe we could just shove koushixinfei’s head into a hot sandwich toaster (without any bread in deference to rising wheat prices) and ram down the lid while lecturing him with financial platitudes. If he protests that he was only joking then we can pour hot jam in his ears (to show that we enjoy a good laugh as much as he does) and then carry on. If nothing else, we will find out if the Teflon coating really works, which is about as close to science as he is to economics.
Those comments are sexual:
I’m sure Guardian journalist Gary Younge has spent the last forty years as a binman or something until he read orchidsoroysters comments on CIF, which annoyed him so much that he decided to quit the bins and get a job as a Guardian journalist purely so he could write a rebuttal at him.
Just the way all those years back Janet Jackson was half way through her half time show when she realised that orchidsoroysters’ wank was lagging a bit so she popped out her nipple to help him.
That comment would make a lot more sense if you read it as ‘You really have missed MY point by a mile’, like I did.
Balls.
I’ve tried really hard to work out how these people think but I keep falling short. Do you think they suspect that one of these days lots of brown people will turn up at their front door demanding to occupy their spare room instead of doing what they do now i.e. living in squalid conditions fifteen to a house and being exploited by every money-grabbing little cunt of a businessman that crosses their path?
Make it a rule that any immigrunt that takes a low paid job as to pay the welfare benefits of the Brit he is replacing. As the Brit he is replacing will no doubt have three kids a council house and by being made unemployed pays no NI, income tax or council tax the bill will be more than the immigrunt earns.
If the immigrunt cannot afford it, take it from the wages of you smug lefties that insist on open borders.
Fuck off Tim.
Just because I said it was slow today it didn’t mean I wanted you back. Slow is better than dim.
What you are all forgetting is that the selfish act of saving a sick child now could cost our grandchildren up to fifty (50) USD in future that they could have spunked away on Nandos and cherryade.
Let’s just nuke the fuckers today and save literally £££s tomorrow.
A little closer to home some of Iain Dale’s groupies are trying to work out why the silly lefties can’t see that steralizing the poor and disabled is such a good idea.
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/
I think top marks should go to:
“The Purpleline said…
I agree with you and I believe we should ensure people are checked before they can go ahead and procreate.
I also do not believe anyone who has a a disability should be allowed to procreate or get Sex on benefits.
I do hope you test this one of disabled being given funds to buy prostitutes on benefits council Tax a truly Labour ideal and one Mrs Harman should be castigated for.
I believe at teh age of eleven the state should inject long-term contraception into both sexes and at age of 18 allow said teenagers to apply for a licence to have the contraception removed and thus allowing them to have children if they prove financial and intelligence criteria has been met.
Lights blue touchpaper and retire to safe distance.”
(I dont know how to do block quotes so I won’t humiliate myself by trying.)
@Pete Tong
Why not make it a rule that for every unemployed Brit that gets of his arse and works for the minimum wage, we deport a forrin?
I had to click through to Iain’s blog didn’t I? Another cunt who has taken the governments announcement to tackle benefit fraud as a rallying call to begin shitting on benefit scroungers. Aka benefit claimants that the cunts have decided are less than human and so are undeserving of the benefits they are entitled too.
I also think Purpleline could benefit with a good few punches to the nads since he thinks so highly of sterilization.
If Pete Tong is Tim, then I’m pretty much convinced now that he’s trolling your asses. His handles alone are like massive LOLposts. Dim. Wrong. I bet he’s wearing a daft wig and a comedy bowtie when he posts as well. And a nappy. He’s wearing a fucking nappy.
You may well be right. It would be the logical thing to do if one was that full of shit. That, or get the broadband connection moved to the bog.
He may or may not be trolling us, and I’m not sure he really knows himself, but it doesn’t matter anyway. I mean, pretending to be a massively offensive prick purely for the lolz (as opposed even to even the most misguided and inept attempt at satire) is just as prickish, if not more so.
Kill me, sweet Jesus.
From some random bloke or other‘s post:
Fucking hell, free bunkups for disableds, paid for with taxpayers’ money? Does the Daily Mail know? It’s an outrage, you’ll be telling me asylum seekers are getting free handjobs next.
Mind you I bet it’s made Tim’s day.
MeinHerzBent:
naah, thats the crackers that give misinterpretations, not the wontons… keep up!
As in: Man who have no sex on benefits, wake up with solution in hand.
Despite being half-chinese, I’ve acquired all my knowledge of Chinese culture from Sax Rohmer and episode #2 of Sherlock.
But the economics doesn’t work koushixinfei! After reading his opinion, the despair I felt consequently caused a drop in my economic activity. Therefore, I think by all rights koushixinfei should be killed immediately by a one-man plague.
Clearly koushixinfei’s only opportunity to catch a glimpse of tit during his formative years was during Michael Buerk’s coverage of the Ethiopian famine. He’s consequently turned out a Malthusian wrong-nob; each night waiting for some juicy footage of human misery to appear on TV so he can crack one out.
LOLtastic.
I’ve pretty much given up on CiF as representing anything like an interesting range of opinion (if it ever was). It’s too depressing.
I’m pretty sure that a lot of the festering nincompoops from HYS have redirected themselves there since the Beeb clamped down on sockpuppet voting, or maybe Littlejohn’s sending them there to moan about ‘Guardianistas’. Fuck knows.
My guess is that those morons who believe that a sinister “liberal elite” runs the country imagine that HYS and CiF are their direct channel into the liberal hive mind that they imagine rules the nation.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link so lets check this one out:
* Guardian writers don’t give a fuck what is written by the commenters on CiF. I doubt they even bother to read them.
* The Guardian editors and management don’t give a fuck what is written by the commenters on CiF. CiF is just a way to get more page impressions and increase ad revenue.
* The “liberal elite”, in so far as it exists, doesn’t give much of a fuck what is written in the Guardian, never mind CiF.
* The Government doesn’t give a pan fried otter bollock for the opinions of a “liberal elite” that doesn’t even really exist.
So that’s the chain of command: broken at every step. Still it helps fund the Guardian, which is something and…
This gives me an idea. Why not plaster SYB in adverts? The more inappropriate the better, just so long as it brings in a few quid. Then next time a long term troll turns up we can point out that he is subsidising the site and he will probably sulk off.
And to think we all laughed at Andy Kadir-Buxton.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1303635/Dizzy-spells-Ask-doctor-headlock.html
I’m now feeling really bad about our imposing oxygen and clean water on koushixinfei.
“koushi xinfei” means “feigned compliance”.
I bet koushixinfei has some amazing business cards. Embossed and everything.