Thanks to Luke for dredging this shit up from an HYS debate about the merits of university.
Is a university degree necessary?
Er… try asking a coherent question if you want a sensible answer.
A university degree is not necessary in the same way as air, food and water are. You can live a happy and fulfilled life without a university degree, you won’t survive five minutes without air to breathe.
If you want to be a medical doctor, a university degree is necessary for you to attain your ambition. (Note for aspiring medics: you also need air to breathe!)
If you want to learn how to learn and how to think, to explore a subject of interest to its fullest extent… well, you can acquire these skills elsewhere, but a university degree is a good way to set your feet on the right track. Oh, and you still need air to breathe.
Define ‘necessary’ and you might be able to answer your question for yourself. Trouble is, I learned how to craft such debate by, er, going to university. Oh, and I still need air to breathe too!
Megan
BA (Hons) in Smug Pedantry, right? I did the same course, which is why I feel qualified to craft this equally smug response: the actual, entirely reasonable question was, ‘is a university degree necessary for success in later life?’
I’ll give you a 48-hour extension to resubmit your answer. Any later and you’ll be forced to wear one of those striped beanies with the little propeller on top for the rest of your life. People will laugh openly as you walk by and small children will follow you around for hours at a time, poking you with sticks, but at least it’ll draw attention from the long, silvery thread of drool perpetually dangling from your chin.
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Jesus…..sweet zombie Jesus, please get somebody to secure a bin liner around Megan’s head before she annoys any more people.
Megan, working in the union bar doesn’t really count as “going to university”.
“at least it’ll draw attention from the long, silvery thread of drool perpetually dangling from your chin.”
Now I’m confused. I thought HYS was a place to mock the bigoted?
Yet now we’re laying into people by essentially calling them disabled?
Is that hypocrisy I smell, or irony so sharp my Monday morning brain hasn’t grasped it?
IT’S FUNNY AND APPROPRIATE TO MOCK THE DISABLED IF SOMEONE LEFT-WING DOES IT SHUT UP
@brager cunt
Have a coffee then take another run at it ftw
Heh, It’d be mildly amusing if “being a HYSer” suddenly qualified you for disability benefits. Well, for about five minutes, anyway.
I find it hard to believe that a woman could be such an arse. This surely has to be the work of a man who calls himself Megan when he’s on the internet.
Remember Elizabethan, our “poet” friend ?
I give you Allan – like a poet but shit.
Remember when teacher would make you write a poem in school ? You were 6 or 7 and in was inevitably crap ?
That’s this lad’s HYS post. Repeat as needed!
Breathing air seems a lot less appealing now. Luckily, university taught me to avoid people like Megan so I have not entirely lost the will to live.
Megan’s now out of university, but without anything relevant to do in her life, thus having to write that little philosophical debate up.
@Ed aka Voltaire
Well, y’know, Voltaire wasn’t just a smartass who spoke about defending your rights etc. He also was a humanist and various other things, things that would make him unable to stand these cunts in HYS. ‘Voltaire’ just doesn’t feel right as your name.
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Now, about the post: anybody else thought that Megan was Andrew Kadir-Buxton under a pseudonym? I sure as hell did.
My psychology degree really helps me every day with my IT Management job.
@passerby otter bollock
I’ll take your opinion into account. I promise.
The “Voltaire” started as a reference to Nelson’s censorship in the “Nelson has his spray” thread a little while ago. If you like freedom of speech so much, why don’t you go live there?
In any case, I’m as qualified as you are to comment on what Voltaire would or wouldn’t have said or done. He’s most famous for his advocacy for free speech.
Yeah, well done Gainsbourg, retard jokes are where it’s at.
Sheesh.
@brager cunt
Nope, you’re right, it’s just a disabled gag, because that’s big and clever, and passerbyotterbollock and christ on a bike would seem to agree, apparently.
Before we all get a bit HYS, no one mentioned being disabled. Some people are just a bit drooly.
I leave the room for a couple of decades and you ocelots’ appendages start talking about me in front of my behind.
Have at you!
@ Where’s the ice cream?
What, you think it’s ‘a bit HYS’ to call people on their privilege and bigotry? An obvious disability joke that doesn’t actually mention the word disability is still a disability joke.
I, among a couple of others by the looks of things, thought this site was better than that.
Hmm… just about every forum/website I visit at the moment has seen a marked increase in people being pointlessly snarky at each other in the last week. Are the Tories putting something in the water?
@Souperman
Which is the pointless snark you’re referring to? The oh so cleverly calling someone a retard without actually using the word, or the being dismayed that this site has sunk so low?
If you’re suggesting the tories are putting something in the water that brings out bigotry in otherwise decent people then I’m intrigued by your theories and wish to subscribe to your newsletter, if you’re calling me pointlessly snarky for objecting then you need to have a think about your own position on mocking the disabled.
mejoff
Glad you agree.
Bring back Nelson. Don’t think you’d see that shit from him.
Dogs, and numerous other animals, also drool a lot, as do babies. Drooling does not necessarily mean mental handicap. Is it ok to compare stupid people to, say, Irish Wolfhounds or, indeed, the under threes? Or would that also be desperately offensive?
FFS. I didn’t see anyone getting offended about the animal-rights implications of the whole ‘Pan-fried Otter Bollocks’ mullarkey. Or even the subtle racist undertones in the ‘Most Honorrobo…’ thread.
So, you have an axe to grind about picking on windowlickers – thank you for sharing.
Please let’s get on with calling Megan a wombat’s weeping humpwound.
Ah, the same old excusemaking that we see from the right when they defend racist and misogynist comments, it’s not just the drool, it’s the whole image evoked by the paragraph. It’s very obvious actually, as long as you’re not glossing over to excuse it.
What next? Can I get away with suggesting that people defending this bullshit have to wear the loincloth and furry legwarmers so that everyone can see how unenlightened they are? I fucking well hope not, but I can see where this is going.
(No he’s not racist, hes… um, talking about the 80s!)
Loztralia,
That’s an argument that is flippant, pointless and desperate, as I’m sure you’re aware.
You don’t have to brown-nose everything the ‘contributors’ post, you know.
@ Cougar Brent
I wasn’t around for that particular racefail, hence my lack of comment.
I honestly can’t claim a problem with cooking and eating animals or parts thereof, you have obviously won now.
Windowlickers? What the fuck is wrong with you.
mejoff
It wasn’t a racefail. It was a post by an HYSer who had automatically described a Japanese (prime?)minister who had stepped down over a broken election promise as ‘honourable’.
The reason it was funny was his immediate recourse to an epithet which is associated with outdated, reductive concepts of Japanese values/characteristics. The title ‘most honorrobo man’ reinforced this sense of archaism.
Cougar Brent obviously misred that one.
Seems to me that Megan has a thing about air – is it because her head is full of it and there’s a very real possibility that she speaks at the speed of light with a high pitch squeal that only Dolphins can pick up? I think so.
She talks about air so much, I think that’s what her “degree” is made of.
I think there should be an HYS equality law, where it is against the law to be offensive to Hysers. You lot are a bunch of hysists.
I’m all for being offensive towards HYSers.
But using disability as an insult is more offensive to the disabled.
Not fucking rocket science.
@mejoff – wtf? In light of your offence at the paragraph in question, I re-read it (several times, in fact) and I can see no “obvious disability joke”, but then I also totally failed to see why SE Smith was getting her knickers knotted the other day on CiF regarding a similar, ersatz, manufactured outrage.
This is why I usually avoid reading the comments on anything. SYB serves to save me the trouble of wading through the toss for the most part, until today’s mistake of reading below the comment line where I have encountered a reverse feedback loop of retardedness.
Rotwatcher
The drooling reference at the end… what do you think that’s all about?
@Rotwatcher, et al.
Do you ever get tired of the old right wing arguing technique of ‘we don’t find this colossal bigotry offensive, so neither should you’?
Yeah, me too.
@Luke
Classy.
Mejoff?
Fuckoff.
Screw the blah filter, just disable comments entirely, then I won’t be tempted to look.
Hmm. A telling response from howfar. Almost like you don’t have a proper argument so you said that instead.
To conclude, if you all regard yourselves guardians of all things progressive and non-bigoted, yet at the same time think it’s fine to insult people by saying they dribble, call people windowlickers, casually use ‘retardedness’ etc etc, then I dare say some shocks in later life might be in the offing.
Good luck with that.
I thought the whole point of this site was to ridicule and mock?! The actual degree of offensiveness used is pretty irrelevant.
This site should be more, not less, offensive. It should be like that purely for my own amusement!
Minge.
Are any of you disabled ?
Then fuck off.
It’s starting to sound like the bloody Daily Mail on here.
I’ve adjusted my name accordingly.
Missed out a
from the
As you were.
@Disgusted
Not quite sure who that was aimed at, those defending bigotry in the style of the Mail, or Me and Brager for complaining?
Can we just not agree that Megan is just out of Uni, feels aggrieved at the world as she can’t get a job, and could do with a visit from Mr Kadir-Buxton for some of his very special treatment.
Back to me corner.
LOOP!
‘Stupid’ means mentally slow.
‘Moron’ used to be the word for adults with the mental age of a child, or ‘retards’ if you will.
No one uses these words in a medical sense. We use them to describe the idiots (that one too) detailed on this and other sites, essentially hate sites but hate for the ignorant rather than hate for people who happen to be a different race/religion/gender/etc.
Or shall be just have ‘Look at what this silly person wrote! Aren’t they a silly person!”
Or, as a great man once said, “don’t be so gay!”
But but, what about Baymswrine’s misandry? Actually, I don’t think I can be bothered, but I’m sure someone can
I’d be genuinely interested to hear why people don’t find the drooling comment a bit off. (Which is not the same as me saying that Gainsbourg and/or SYB are made of pure evil bigotry, please do not kill me.) I get into a lot of arguments about this (because of being joyless and PC and not wanting anyone to be happy) and I still don’t quite get it (because of being a bit dim in a way that does not relate to a mental disability except in so far as depression causes brain fog).
Alternatively, we could laugh at Megan some more. I liked that bit.
Luke, you are the problem, congratulations.
Not to get too bogged down in seriousness (I want to laugh at teh stoopids!).
However, I was going with the idea that it pisses me right off when people are offended by something that they have no link to.
F’rinstance – I’m Irish, I tell Irish jokes, they funny.
I was told once not too as this person was offended. This person in question was English.
Therefore I don’t see why they are offended.
You know it’s the whole do gooding “I’m such a good person that I’m offended for you” crap. Has to stop.
Right back to normal – cockwomble, twatbasket et al.
So your argument is that, as a man, I shouldn’t be offended by misogyny, as a white person I should be cool with all manner of racism etc?
That way lies the Daily Mail, my friend, and the society that it supports along with it.
“casually use ‘retardedness’ etc etc”
yeah. it’s “retardation”, you illiterate spunkflues.
@brager cunt
Homer Simpson – the canonical incarnation of stupid. Or, possibly, me, as I fall asleep in front of The X Factor.
As an outsider who usually reads this site at work to much merriment when I need a break, I have to say this argument that has unfolded about what is deemed politically correctly offensive has got a bit, well…. silly frankly.
The whole point of this site is tongue in cheek tomfoolery and I’ll got out on a limb here (that’s not a joke to incense paraplegics so let’s not get more crazy) and say if you don’t like a bit of mindless cynicism and rudeness just for the sake of maybe, just maybe, having a laugh at someone else’s expense (something we all do on a daily basis if we read this site), then stop being precious and don’t read the blinking thing.
It really is that chuffing simple. Get back to Megan and take your hissy fits to the bathroom ladies…. I’m a lady so that can’t be sexist… or can it?! I’m all confused from the amount of self-righteous twattery that I don’t even know if I’m being overtly PC, just PC or a raving sexist/racist who needs to be jailed pronto.
Now shhhh, some of us found the Megan stuff funny.
I love tedium. Tedium is my favourite thing. I love tedium so fucking much I’m going to read these comments again and again, for hours.
Mejoff, the point is that you can be offended by everything.
Joke on TV the other night about someone turning 34. He said he wasn’t that bothered as it meant he’d beaten Jesus!
I’m Catholic and thought it was hilarous.
Life is too short to get up in arms about stupid things on the internet. Get angry and people being abused in the street, not on a screen.
Christ, have you all been drinking Spaz Juice?
Quick, it’s the PC rozzers! Scarper! The Mail was right all along! Someone warn 4Chan! The pool is closed!
No, sorry, my mistake, it’s a man/woman/other pretending to have no sense of humour for comic effect. It’s certainly amusing me.
This could be the start of something beautiful.
Ceannair, I believe the usual take on the Irish jokes is that you can tell them because you’re Irish, but other people (particularly English ones who oppressed you, stole your potatoes etc) can’t. And any fighting over this is to be done strictly between Irish people of differing levels of po-facedness. I think that’s it, anyway. It’s complicated being an internet liberal.
Also, you are allowed to hate me for even mentioning potatoes, not so much because it’s offensive as because it’s deeply unoriginal.
@ Disgusted of Tunbridge Ceannair
I’m classed as disabled and until I started reading the comments I had no idea I was meant to be offended by the reference to “drooling”. Could I be disabled in the brane as well the body?
In the past I may have implied that certain HYS posters were tinfoil hat wearing nutjobs. I now realise that this may have been offensive to tinfoil hat wearing nutjobs and, if so, I apologies unreservedly.
After you with the scourge please.
@Cennair
I’m not ‘offended by everything’, I’m just very conscious that calling someone disabled as an insult insults disabled people, who in a lot of cases have a shit enough time of it already, without people reinforcing the idea that their conditions are something for them to be ashamed of and everyone else to make light of.
In the same way that as a Jew, I find people calling each other Jews as an insult (I do actually hear that one from time to time, before you ask) fucking offensive. I simply exctend that courtesy to other oppressed groups because I’m not a complete solipsist.
Incidentally, by your reckoning, is it wrong of me to hope that non jews are sometimes upset by anti-semitism, or is that comparable to the Daily Mail in some fashion?
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/4/25/129167157391801999.jpg
What’s somewhat amusing about Megan’s twattery is that people on HYS are mocking her, saying thing like :
I bet they wish they could come on here and call her a Wombleclunge.*
*Pre-apologies to any Wombles or clunges that take offence
Hey! I’m white, male and uninspiring and have nothing to be offended by.
I find this situation offensive.
Oh, I see. This is fun.
Dammit, now I’m Googling drooling instead of being productive. Grr.
Oh Jesus titty fucking christ. I came to read the comments for some light entertainment and amusing banter and I’ve found the fucking PC brigade have taken over.
If you like being PC so much why don’t you go live there?
I actually know lots of disabled people who don’t drool. I’m guessing, if I were to ask them, that they’d be more offended by your presumption that any reference to drooling automatically refers to disabled people. Now who’s a bigot, eh? Eh?
If anyone posting comments on this site can honestly say that they have never, NEVER, thought an offensive thought, laughed at an un-PC joke or said something slightly offensive to anyone, ever, then I imagine we’ll all raise them up as the new messiah. Until such time, fuck off and mind your own business will you?
If I want to laugh at something, I’ll damn well laugh at it. Especially since it wasn’t offensive until you made it offensive.
In the words of so many HYSers, I rest my case.
Yo guys, I gotta tell ya, I find all this equating differently abled persons with drooling highly offensive.
My servant boys are all mongoloids (as I always specifically specify) and they hardly ever dribble, unless I order them to of course!
As you were,
Well, “disabled” covers a pretty wide range, and it’d be surprising if every disabled person you knew had that particular symptom. Doesn’t mean that there isn’t an association between drooling and certain conditions or that it isn’t often referenced in a derogatory way, whether or not that was on any level the intention here.
Ho hum. I wish these things didn’t always turn so nasty.
It gets nasty because here isn’t the place, and if that isn’t stupenduously fucking obvious then I don’t know what is.
For the Ayn Rand fans: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/aug/23/ayn-rand-world-largest-book-ad
I must admit, I have a (mildly) disabled husband and I never even flinched at the drooling reference. And I’m the sort that gets easily offended on other people’s behalf. I suppose that I learned long ago that drooling is a sign of a muscle disorder that stops the mouth closing properly, not of mental retardation, so I never made the connection. Does this mean the old misconception that anyone in a wheelchair, wearing a hearing aid or walking with a limp must also be retarded hasn’t quite left us? How sad. No wonder my husband still gets kids throwing things at him on the bus when they see his hearing aid. Tsk.
Ceannair:
Please don’t think that people deliberately ‘get offended’ (how does one do that, anyway?) by racist/disabled jokes simply because they think it is admirable to defend minorities from persecution. Speaking from experience, it’s more likely to be because the offendee fucking hates racist cuntbags with a passion, and they are offended by the existence of said racist cuntbag, rather than by the joke per se.
@new scientist: “Drooling” insults often make that assumption (bit like “spastic” in the school playground) so the intention can be there. Certainly I don’t think “lol, Megan has a muscle disorder!” was the intended meaning here. I don’t believe that drooling equals mental disability, but I’ve heard it used as such in insults rather too often not to make the connection via that.
Jesus fucking Christ. That twunt makes govt_helper look like a useful member of society.
@Mim
Well, obviously. All I’m saying is that I have personally moved on enough from that stereotype to not even make the connection. I wasn’t condoning the joke. At all.
I didn’t think you were, don’t worry, and argh now I am in a vast liberal tangle of apologetic babble.
Thanks to that link, I am also waiting for the cosmos to respond to the earth by realigning itself so that the night sky says FUCK NO in twinkly stars. Which would be excellent, and astrologically catastrophic.
There are many real issues affecting sick and disabled people right now, a throwaway remark on a tiny, humorous website isn’t one of them. Still, I suppose you can always depend on us Lefties to spend more time and energy fighting each other over some non-issue than addressing genuine problems.
If by “benefits” you mean a punch in the cunt/cock then i’m all for it.
And anyone who took the drooling as having a go at the disabled is a cunt. END OF.
Can we drown him and drag his bloated corpse through the ocean with his fancy GPS pen till it reads “Play Bioshock instead”?
Ripoff, Fuckoff.
Seriously, if this site has not only decended to the point where the contributers feel the need to bolster a frankly substandard post with ‘lol retard’, but to the stage where the regulars will flock to defend it with Littlejohnesque cries of ‘PCGONEMAAAAD!’ then it has well and truly jumped the shark, which is a shame, because it used to be actually funny, whereas it’s now well on the way to becoming 4chan’s most worthless outpost.
We’re ever so naughty – we screw even when we’re on duty
Now everyone chill out, have a beer, have a wank, whatever it is that calms you down, please!
I should apologise for my last post, which on reflection was far too boring, what I meant to say was ‘Fuck off troll!’
I’m still not sure if I should jump in here, but I’m horrified by some of the inferences that have been drawn from this post, and I’d rather be a sap than a prick.
I’m not one of your comedy nihilists, thinking anything’s fair game if it gets a laugh, and I certainly wasn’t alluding to mental or motor impairment. The drooling reference was simply meant to conjure up someone with a complete lack of focus and self-awareness. Two things in which people of normal cognitive function can quite easily be, and Christ knows, often are lacking.
The disability connection didn’t actually occur to me at the time. Maybe there’s your irony.
I’m genuinely very sorry if I caused any offence. Please accept this ritual sacrifice of my own joke as some small compensation.
@Gainsbourg – I seriously doubt your contrition will pacify a professional offendee like Mejoff. Post hoc analysis, or data dredging, will give you more or less any result you like. So, you make a remark intended, as I suggested upthread, to evoke someone like Homer Simpson, but a closer textual reading gives a completely different meaning – a meaning exactly aligned with the reader’s prejudice. I love teh internets I do.
Well that’s the problem with trolling you see: in order to keep it up you have to make more and more ridiculous claims that eventually even the most naive will say “awwww, come on now!”.
Better luck next time. 2/10 because you got the OP to sort of apologise when he shouldn’t have.
@Gainsbourg After reading your post I’m outraged that you would dare to advocate human sacrifice
No doubt this is part of your dreadful anti-people-with-disabilities bias, methinks
Rest assured I will be cancelling my subscription forthwith.
Also after re reading your post I have noticed a statistically significant favoritism towards the letter ‘e’ at the expense of other equally valid letters (b,h,k,d,y and c for example).
What kind of monster are you?
On behalf of slighted bookstavists everywhere I demand an apology
@BBG Snr
Georges Perec (in)famously wrote a book where the letter e was totally excluded, so Gainsbourg’s posts could be seen as an PC attempt at affirmative action to redress the earlier injustice.
I stand by my username. I can’t believe how wildly off the mark these handbag fights have been. I’ve seen more offensive stuff in the Night Garden. For some of you I think it’s time to stop watching Higgle Piggle and off to bed with you. I’m sure that stuffed ladyboy also drools in his sleep, usually when he’s spanking Macca Pacca.
There are a lot of branes being spoken in these comments.
@Gainsbourg: Fair nuff. Didn’t mind the comment nearly as much as the clusterfuck, and didn’t think a deliberate reference was intended because, well, it didn’t seem very you.
Megan’s far too vain to drool, anyway. So you were clearly inaccurate and wrong. Tsk.
@ Gainsbourg
Nice of you to say something, and I’ll take you at your word, as I’m wont to do when littlejohnesque fuckwits like Ripoff Britain aren’t calling me a cunt and a ‘professional offendee’ (what the fuck does that even mean?) and telling me to fuck off. It’s always unpleasant when something you’ve said is misinterpreted, but not half so unpleasant as discovering a hypocritical bag of dicks where you thought there was a selection of persons of good humour and integrity. By the way Ripoff, Mim and Brager Cunt also thought the joke looked like it was aimed at the disabled, you think they’re cunts and professional offendees as well, or are you saving the truly personal shit for me because they’re regular posters?
It’s probably a bad time to mention that quite a few people consider “minge”, “twat”, “cunt” and their various hilarious synonyms (“clunge” being a firm favourite) to be sexist.
It’s probably an even worse time to try to get back to pointing and laughing and the boorish and arrogant cockwhistle quoted in the main post.
Oh, is this stupid argument still going on?
We’re going to get our big truncheons out if this carries on much longer – either that or Lord Nelson turns on the blah filter. Either way, you’re all fucked
On the one hand, this thread has descended into an utter shambles, on the other, as the focus of Gainsbourg’s ire was ludicrous pedantry, it’s a massive thread win!
Well, Alan, at the end of the day I can say I’m disappointed with the lad’s performance.
The level of verbal diarrhea was surely raised by young brager cunt’s early door’s introduction to the field where he neatly set up Mejoff’s mazey dribble to the edge of insanity.
Brilliantly raising the question of religion on the edge of the area Mejoff almost had it nailed. However the complete failure of the rest of the squad to finish his mental high ball with a Hitler-Godwin tap in from short range will surely raise questions for the manager.
Shocking.
Rape jokes are funnier. Gainsbourg, make a rape joke.
@Dizzy:
{tenuous analogy alert} Comments from playing staff like that is wot got France eliminated early {/tenuous analogy alert}
At last a thread where I feel at home!
Swishhh, swooosh …
How about we start a new thread and pretend it never happened. I know how about this?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2010/08/do_garages_need_tougher_regula.html
An undercover investigation into UK car garages suggests the vast majority miss simple mechanical faults, consumer watchdog Which? has said. Has this been your experience?
a good start is:
if you hate garages so much try not to live there…
Number of posts: 95
Number of times point missed: 85
The point is not that ‘a disabled joke’ was made. If we were all against ‘disabled jokes’, ‘gay jokes’, ‘religion jokes’, the world would indeed be a very dull and unfunny place.
BUT the point is that disability was (seemingly) used AS AN INSULT. It is one thing making a joke at the expense of a group of people, but to use that group of people (especially the unfortunate, marginalised etc etc) as nothing more than means of insulting people who aren’t so unfortunate crosses the line of acceptability.
IMO
People who are born disabled cannot help it so it is unfair to take the piss, people who are born black cannot help it so it is unfair to be racist, so people who are born stupid and biggoted cannot help it, so why is it OK to take the piss out of HYSers.
Discuss!
@Timmy Taylor – erm, no thanks!
Bah, I’ve had the excitement of SYB making my suggestion into a post, and a couple of commentators drool all over it.
@brager cunt
We get the point. But we don’t really care. Now that’s the point.
Oh god. The cuntery continues.
@brager cunt. You have patronisingly conflated dribbling and disability IN. YOUR. OWN. MIND.
Much as one, if one were a cunt, conflate Jews with money or Blacks with bananas. No-one else is making that inference. Except Mejoff.
Google “People dribbling”. Please. But above all, cease to post!
For fuck’s sake, you made me upper case. And spunk meself with my own self righteousness.
Can I still say “anus”?
Bloody hell, is the argument really as silly as someone equating drooling with a disability? Like several people have said – the person making that link is assuming all disabled people drool which says more about how they view disability than anyone else on here.
For pity’s sake – my eyes and ears are bleeding with the sheer buggery of this whole “debate”, and when I say “debate” I mean “conversation”, when I say “conversation” I mean “rambling”, and when I say “rambling” I mean “drool”.
This argument is chock full of drool. Drool of the lightly intelligent and confused kind.
Get. A. Grip. Poor old Megan is feeling properly left out I’d say.
When all else fails, either say ‘we don’t care’, or backtrack so entirely that you question the terms of the original point to a ludicrous extent. What the fuck else is the drooling supposed to denote? Hunger? Sleeping?
Oh Megan, you’re so hungry and sleeping. Haha.
And the accusation that I think “all disabled people drool” is not only offensive, but also an application of reverse logic which would embarrass a 7-year-old.
At times like this I ask myself “What would Saint Catherine Oliver do?”
i have no known any retards so do not know if they dribble or not
if they do dribble we shouldn’t be nasty to them
i’m not sure if they don’t dribble
http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/imagesEmergency.jpg
OK I’m in.
As a scouser, I am deeply offended by the implication that scousers are all thieving no-marks.
Let me tell you that this makes life fucking difficult when casing…sorry viewing…the glass cabinets inside H.Samuels in Church Street.
Honestly, it’s bloody impossible to browse in peace, maybe trying the odd couple of wristwatches on, seeing what they look like outside in daylight, without meddling shop assistants hanging around.
But my dear brager cunt. Drooling can relate to excitement – people have used this as a metaphor for quite some time without being accused of being offensive to the disabled. Some people also drool in their sleep… observe Wikipedia..
“Drooling (also known as driveling, ptyalism, sialorrhea, or slobbering) is when saliva flows outside the mouth. Drooling is generally caused by excess production of saliva, inability to retain saliva within the mouth, or problems with swallowing.”
(I’d say the drooling comment aimed at Megan in this case could be quite correct and within it’s proper use within the above definition).
“Some people with drooling problems are at increased risk of inhaling saliva, food, or fluids into the lungs. However, this is unlikely to cause harm, unless the body’s normal reflex mechanisms (such as gagging and coughing) are also impaired.
Care for drooling due to teething includes good oral hygiene. Ice pops or other cold objects (e.g., frozen bagels) may be helpful. Care must be taken to avoid choking when a child uses any of these objects.
Drooling is also common in children with neurological disorders and those with undiagnosed developmental delay. The reason for excessive drooling seems to be related to
Lack of awareness of the build-up of saliva in the mouth,
Infrequent swallowing, and
Inefficient swallowing.
Treatment of excessive drooling is related to these causes:
Increased awareness of the mouth and its functions,
Increased frequency of swallowing,
Increased swallowing skill.
Sialorrhea
Sialorrhea is a condition characterized by the secretion of drool in the resting state. It is often the result of open-mouth posture from CNS depressants or sleeping on one’s side. In the resting state, saliva may not build at the back of the throat, triggering the normal swallow reflex, thus allowing for the condition.
It may be more common when resting soon after meals.
Treatment
A comprehensive treatment plan incorporates several stages of care: correction of reversible causes, behavior modification, medical treatment, and surgical procedures. Atropine sulfate tablets are indicated to reduce salivation and may be prescribed by doctors in conjunction with behaviour modification strategies. In general, surgical procedures are considered after evaluation of non-invasive treatment options.
An example of a drug that has been used is glycopyrrolate.[1]”
Nowhere in this entry does it mention how drooling is mostly linked to a disability. In some minor cases it can be but on the whole it appears that anyone can drool at any given time, regardless of their abilities.
Now that, should be an end to it but seeing how farcical this has been throughout, I doubt it.
I think we should be nice to disabled persons, especially those that drool and dribble.
Guys gainsbourgh apologised regardless so perhaps we can get back to directing this potent cuntery at HYS’ers instead of each other?
Right, back to lurking and doing something more amusing than reading these comments, like slamming my dick in the front door.
It turns out you don’t have to post on HYS to be a HYS’er.
Somewhere in this comments section everyone seems to have misssed Ceannair’s excellent link to Alan’s poetry.
The one on August 19th about new technology is even better if you imagine it as the lyrics to “we didn’t start the fire” by Billy Joel.
Christ on a studded dildo, is that argument still going on?
I think brager cunt is right that it did look like Gainsbourg was using disability as an insult against a fucking idiotic HYSer. I think Gainsbourg is right that he didn’t mean to. I think whoever said this was a stupid argument had it right on the nail.
We shouldn’t be using disabilities to insult HYSers, not when cockwomble and Ann Widdecombe’s Hairy Love Canal will do just as well.
Can’t we all just stop the clusterfucking and get back to ripping the piss out of Cunt Bugger?
If there’s any clearer admission of wrongness than saying ‘we don’t care’, it’s copying and pasting large swathes of Wikipedia.
Perhaps if there was some kind of Code of Conduct for SYB that might guide us all on acceptable insults on a site solely aimed at denigrating other people. Perhaps then we could avoid insulting anyone. Also, perhaps this site would have …
oh fuck it, I can’t even bring myself to care.
Can we have a new post to comment on please? I’m stupendously bored of this one.
Lordy Lordy.
From the sublime (Razzle For Psychiatrists) to the ridiculous.
Can I just say that I am deeply, deeply offended by the thought that there could be people here who are deeply deeply offended by the fact that there aren’t more people who are deeply deeply offended by the people who are deeply, deeply offended by these contrived trivialities.
How dare you all trample so disrespectfully on their sensibilities?
I am deeply, deeply, deep.
So how do you define success? A good job? Lots of money? The question remains vague.
This is truly the most exciting comments section I’ve ever had the pleasure to encounter. Please can we have more tilting at windmills? Thanks.
From the Mails benefits fraud comments
“What ever did people do before benefits were introduced? However did they cope?
In fact it was only after the war the first benefits were introduced…and guess what the jobless figures went up.
When a business goes bust, it goes bust. No money. Gone.
You can’t get blood out of a stone. So whether you are entitled to benefits or not…just remember the money is all gone! (According to the last Labour government note anyway!)
No good whinging and whining that you are entitled to this and entitled to that…if there is no money, then there is no money. Simple as that!
- Helen, Chelmsford, 24/8/2010 12:22″
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305565/More-1BILLION-lost-disability-benefit-fraud-error.html#ixzz0xWqDyKsC
Those good for nothing cripples, Hitler had the right idea, it involved gas and a chamber.
The name “Brager Cunt” denigrates women- implying that a woman’s special private area is in some way negative to the degree it can be employed as an insult.
I demand that they apologise to women everywhere and disappear up their own backside as required by space corp directive 149.
Since when was drooling a disability?
Large swathes of Wikipedia that prove you wildly went from just plain reading into your own paranoia of what’s right and wrong. If there’s anyone that proves somebody wrong, it’s me.
Of course, I’m not that arrogant, I was just following brager cunt’s extremely model example of how one should behave with the correct moral compass.
To that effect – fuck off *whine whine whine*, *injustice, whine, whine, whine*.
I am the puveyor of all that is sacred in this mortal coil and I’m here to show you the way you lost lambs to the slaughter.
Bet you didn’t learn that at Unversity Megan. Still, you know what air is so that’s a start.
*adopts reasoning strategy of the day*
OMG i totaly didnt mean cunt as a wurd for a wimmin’s ladybit! of corss thats not wot i was geting at.
wot i meant was… erm… someone from scunthorpe, cos scunthorpe has the word cunt in it
and YOU, you chauvinist pig, you assumed i ment genitalia.
its YOUR fault
Phew. Dug myself out of that one. Don’t think anyone noticed the complete lack of cogency to my argument.
Mummy, what’s going on? Why are the people being boring? Why?
Why?
Paleface brother brager cunt is heap big buffalo batty.
He need ‘um smoke peace pipe with SYB braves.
Water from mouth not only from raspberry.
The tags “permanently bewildered” and “slow readers” can also (seemingly) be inferred to be an insult toward the mentally handicapped. Can we have them banned please? Also the horse I rode in on is a tad thirsty, may it have a drink?
I think racism is a disability and HYSers should get disability benefits, free housing, free beer tokens and sympathy off SYBers for it.
You are all fascists against racists.
Genuine tea spurting moment:
Stop doing this
/slurp
/dribble
/drool
‘brager cunts mum’
Hmm. I used to pull the ‘your mum’ line out of the bag when I’d lost an argument when I was 8.
Maybe when I become a wise non-questioning panderer to the Gods of SYB, I’ll come to learn that it’s in fact a sophisticated rhetorical tool which means that I’ve definitely won an argument…
*finishes oiling waders*
@mejoff
Hello. Yes, snarky. I’m not commenting on the rights and wrongs of insulting the disabled, I was commenting on your being snarky. Your posts were agrressively toned (see your response to me also) in a way you almost certainly wouldn’t have done to Gainsbourg’s face, and also in a way that showed you weren’t even prepared to entertain the idea that someone’s intent was an interpretation other than your own.
My own personal calm interpretation was that, yes, the reference to drooling probably did infer some level of mental instability. But the target was Megan, not the disabled. My interpretation might be wrong. As it turns out, yours was definitely wrong, as Gainsbourg has explained.
There have been many far more deliberately offensive comments made on here (racism, sexism, references to paedophilia), often in a mock-shocking way, similar to the way (and I apologise if anyone doesn’t like being aligned with his humour) Ricky Gervais delivers material. It’s a pose to make a point. Yes, some people will misunderstand this delivery and take it on board to reinforce their prejudices.
But is this really the place where that will happen? I would say not.
One poster’s stand against the Gods of Speak Your Branes.
He gets told to fuck off. Yet still he continues.
He is joined in his mission by other posters.
THEN – the issue is resolved by one of the all-powerful Gods of SYB known only as Gainsbourg.
BUT IT’S NOT OVER YET.
Brager Cunt goes on and on and on.
No one knows why – Except Cunt himself.
It’s tedious! It’s painful! But still it continues.
Will anyone come out of this enlightened?
Coming to a thread near you.
You lot want to read the Daily Mail more and find out about life in the real world. You cannot hide beneath your Liberal, multicultural utopian, politically correct rocks forever.
Anybody want to buy a basket?
Its not a funny basket, admittedly, but you can sweep up all your unfunny crap into it and then hide it in the loft never to be seen again.
There is a 30% discount to all SYB readers if the unfunny people just SHUT THE FUCK UP now!
Remember; basket.com, for all your basketwork needs.
@ twatbasket.com
Stop being mean to unfunny people, they are human too
Fuck sake, are we still debating who is racist,disabalist, sexist?
I leave my corner for a few hours and enter the real world, and the thread still rambles on like a beardy kagoul wearing college lecturer.
Nelson,I beseech you to post a new HYS twatbasket (nothing against tw@basket.com, i’m not twatbasketist), and hopefully this time we can point fun at the poor feeble minded fools, instead of chucking around insults between ourselves. Bring back Neil and 1984. At this rate I might have to go read a Cuger novel to get any form of freak pointing entertainment.
Bah, I thought drooling = idiocy, and I’m offended by beige.
But then French = sexy and sophisticated, no?
Retard = late (lit. delay) so yeah, Megan, take your luck of punctuality and go whistle.
That’s that sorted. I love maths but I fucking hate beige.
Bless me St. Catherine, for I have sinned. And forgive all the pedantic cunts in this thread. Amen
nyahh! nyahh!
brager cunt = http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/enfantprovocateur.htm
IMO, there’s too many drooling retards and not enough offensive behaviour in this thread.
Is Nelson on holiday by any chance?
The ironic thing is, I meant for this post to be a bit of comparatively lightweight fluff after govt_helper’s rapists’ charter.
You should have just made the post about kicking Megan in the genitals. You would have got a much more positive result.
Although I’m a bit crushed that googlecache didn’t save my comment about govt_helper giving his precious DNA away to a crusty sock.
Holy shit I read a lot of this before my brain started to hurt. I actually drooled a little.
The other day I encountered a disabled person who was drooling. It made me sad. That’s pretty much all I can contribute, but as everyone seems to be behaving all HYS tonight, I’m going to spout my opinion on the subject anyway. You’re all cunts!
Hi all,
I’ve been reading since ’08. This is my first post. Can I start by saying how much I miss Kelvin. This wouldn’t happen on his watch, etc. I wish my first post could be funnier, alas, no. I’d like to take this opportunity to pay homage to my comedic idols. Nelson, Kelvin, Alex, Bit Special, Funny peculiar, Gainsborough, Dizzy.
Non of you ever get the appreciation you deserve
The above post contains various grammatical errors. My iPhone apologises, profusely.
Could really do with some guidance on the anus issue here.
Hey, it’s the silly season, which I suppose around here means things get more tediously earnest than usual.
La Spesh and millie were my favourites. Oh well.
TheSilent Koala ruled also.
Personally I think you’re all a bunch of drooling imbeciles for even getting involved in this vile waste of time. I’ve just spent 15 minutes reading all the comments here just looking for a punchline…
I can just imagine you now, sat around at home bathed in vast amounts of your own bodily secretions, paranoid that teh internet is talking about you… “Drooling? That’s something I do all the time! They must mean me!” When the fuck did drooling become a synonym for disabled? Fucking retard. Go piss on yourself some more.
But don’t take that wrong.
Why can’t everyone just agree to disagree instead of being complete cunts to each other?
Brager Cunt is spot on: the stereotype of the drooling idiot almost certainly originated from historical misconceptions about people with neurological diseases.
And yet.
Almost everyone else (based on a straw poll on SYB) seems to have forgotten this, and this means one of two things:
1. They are insensitive cunts who should now see the error of their ways and stop using this stereotype immediately, OR
2. The historical meaning of the term is now, well, history, and people are perfectly justified in using it in its new, unoffensive (well, except to stoopid people) context.
It seems to me (if I’m right) that this stereotype has irreversibly entered the public consciousness, to the extent that even after the myth of drooling=retarded has been thoroughly removed from everyone’s mind, the stereotype just won’t go away.
I suspect people will continue forever to conflate drooling with stupidity without really knowing why. It’s a shame, and I can understand it grating on disabled people and people who remember the original meaning, but language and culture moves on and sometimes you have to recognise when that has happened and let it go. Maybe this is one of those times?
And stop being mean to each other, you set of dicks.
It’s not like the olden days.
What, with the point-missing, the trying-too-hardness, and the general sense of bus-missing, it seems like an age has passed.
SYB, we mourn your demise.
Tried to post, but it was eaten by the hamsters.
It was just to say that the golden age of SYB has gone, really.
It now feels like punk being discovered by the in-crowd of Leicester in 1977.
There is nothing wrong with drooling retards. I used to keep a couple of them in my cellar.
‘Branes’, ‘Josef Fritzl’
Let me guess. You’re the kind of people who think Frankie Boyle is actually funny?
“Let me guess. You’re the kind of people who think Frankie Boyle is actually funny?”
Pretty average, but not in the same league as Chubby Brown or Bernard Manning.
O Jesus, make it stop!
Siegfried – second!
I’m half Irish. Do I just miss out the punchline?
“This blog is dedicated to the dribble-spattered lunacy of BBC “Have Your Say” discussions.” ~ 2007
Clearly the trolls have fed well and effectively…
@My Foot Hurts: sorry, I’m not qualified to answer that question under Internet Racism laws.
Did anyone hear about that woman who put a cat in a bin? Apparently she put it in a bin and now I am angry. Grr
Glass flows with age
SYB flows with rage
@My Pockets Hurt: In between the buttocks is where you’ll find it. Lube, and express permission are recommended.
For those of you that still have some small sliver of faith left in humanity I present to you this utter cunt.
The scariest part is the very first comment, no condemnation just tips on how to improve his look. When the correct response was clearly “hang yourself now or I’ll do it for you”.
@Cylux
Now *that’s* what we’re talking about.
@Cylux – holy fkn monkeys!
This utter, utter, utter cunt calls himself a libertarian? I mean, I know that libertarian is a frequently abused term, but this is really special. He should start an organisation called “Libertarians for Rape” and see how the real libertarians take to that.
He seeks to balance a few minor perceived injustices (which probably are not even injustices at all, but that is a separate issue) against a very major injustice and tries to call it quits. He needs to get a sense of proportion.
His choice of which very major injustice to visit on women, rape, in recompense for the perceived wrongs of feminism against poor oppressed men (with tiny dicks) like himself, is actually quite arbitrary. He could have chosen mugging or murder but he chose rape instead. That tells us something about what goes in in his mind. Its not a nice place; a swirling vortex of blue balls, unjustified feelings of grievance, violent sexual revenge fantasies, pompous self-deluding, self-justifying, pseudo-libertarian horse shit and some more very blue balls for garnish.
He clearly has a blogroll of like-”minded” scum to fill up his comments but if you can hold back the urge to puke on the keyboard we get to a few sane comments after a bit. One of the anonymouses calls it right about a quarter of the way down:
Yep. What he said.
A bit further down one of the commenters says that they reported the post as hate speech. I was inclined to do likewise but later on somebody else made the very sensible comment that by placing his views on the web using his real name and photograph, where any prospective employer is likely to find it, he has voluntarily ostracised himself from any hope of employment or social contact. Getting his blog taken down would be doing him a favour he doesn’t deserve and depriving the people of Norway of a much needed warning about what seems to be a genuinely dangerous person.
Oh he describes himself as:
And yet.
On the 10th of May, 2009 he did post his little “gain equality by raping women” screed and has not bothered to take it down. If that doesn’t make him a grade-A misogynist I don’t know what fucking does.
Well maybe this line from one of his replies in the comments:
Utter, utter, utter CUNT! The fact he even bothers to take pains to distance himself from being called a misogynist makes him a stupid cockweasel as well.
Looking at his blogroll didn’t do my blood pressure many favours either.
It is far worse than that. He continues to spout the same bilge in his more recent blog postings. It is clear that we spends a lot of his time thinking about rape and how to pretend to justify it in the most pompously verbose terms possible.
I think we have a new Regular Twat. This thread wasn’t wasted after all!
Isn’t it about time that scientists stopped dicking around trying to cure cancer and whatnot, and invented a device that allows you to reach through your computer monitor and strangle cunts like Eivind Berge? Come on boffins – how about it?
He’s got nothing to lose, then.
I still haven’t recovered from govt helper yet and then Eivind comes along.
I hate to continue the theme of this thread, but are we now starting to unearth people that go way beyond funny? Sure, the guy deserves any and all contempt coming his way, but making light of it, I feel uncomfortable.
You might want to upgrade that to two regular twats. I recognised the name roissy from a very toss-rangerary blog post I was once directed too a few months ago. This isn’t it but it’s more than mind-numbingly vile enough: is it time to rethink democracy?
Yeah, fucking politicians, voting for equal rights and shit, where’s my fucking white male privilege gone?
Something tells me that Cuger Brant is more humble than this cunt. Hell, Cuger Brant is a paragon of humanity when compared to this cunt, and has a greater grasp of what the fuck “truth” means.
The only benefit his site produces is that should you meet a guy who refers to himself as an “alpha” you know straight away that the correct course of action is to stab them in the bollocks.
Actually thinking about it, Throbbe’s probably right. There ain’t much humour to be found there, plenty to make you want to beat them to death though. Or put an advance order in for one of Albert Angelo’s inventions.
Coming out of Lurkland to administer a warning.
Throbbe; STOP RIGHT THERE YOU FUCKER! Don’t even dare start another serious conversation. See the hundred odd comment above? See the total lack of humour, and the saturation of dickery? I barely got through that shite, I’m not going back.
@My Foot Hurts.
Frequently.
I Googled Eivind Berge and the good news is that large sections of the internet already regards him with the horrified contempt he deserves. The bad news is that there is at least one other poor sod with the same name. If he ever Googles himself he is going to get a very nasty surprise!
@Throbbe,
If it makes you feel better about being humourous about the truly desperately nasty: think of it as gallows humour, as laughing so you don’t cry.
Hooray! SYB is back on brief
I dipped my toe in the swamp of Eivind Berge’s responses to comments.
He really does say that “involuntary celibacy” of men is as bad as rape. He actually says this. In real life. In a way that is not fiction.
I never realised I had it so bad…
Someone ought to tell Eivind that sometimes you just can’t beat a good wank.
[insert callsign here]:[insert callsign here] to Command.
Command: Reading you.
[insert callsign here]: Norway?
Command: Special request from the Norwegian public.
[insert callsign here]: Okay, I’ll gather my team.
“Having sex with an unconscious woman is not rape unless the rapist forcibly put her in that state with the purpose of accomplishing sex with her. It might be a lesser offense, though, depending on the circumstances.” – Eivind Berge.
Is this guy for real!? I mean really, this has to be the most stupid thing I’ve ever read trying to justify if a woman is asleep and a man decides to get jiggy with her, that’s not rape?! I think you’ll find it is if the woman is unconscious!
Silly Elvind, just put your hilariously small cock in another man.
I wonder if anyone has told him that one of the more successful methods of getting into someone else’s pants with their permission is to NOT be a completely irredeemable cockwomble.
On the halarious / disgusting woman throwing cat in a wheelie bin incident, we get this putrid pearl of wisdom from the Daily Mail:
Never trust a man who names his donkey ‘moonflower’.
Eivind Berge needs a consultation with Dr Kadir-Buxton. He’d have this shite sorted out, no problem.
However, you must admit that it does sound rather romantic, as he rams in his tiny pecker dry, if he grunts “You do love me don’t you, Moonflower”. Well, more romantic than Neddy anyway.
I am still reeling from Elvind’s cerebral discharge. Amazingly, it seems that he’s still actually alive, although as I intend to pass his details on to Julie Bindel, that state of affairs is unlikely to continue.
I’m a trained practitioner of the Kadir-Buxton method, please refer Elvind to me. Don’t waste him on redroseandy. Pretty please.
I love his latest rancid deluge about rape in Israel- he gets to blame Feminism and Judaism for the fact that every woman he’s ever met has obtained a restraining order against him.
Blaming teh wimmins and teh j00s for the fact that he can’t get laid? It’s quite an achievement.
Thing is, blogs give a spurious appearance of validity to any crazy cunt with net access and the ability to spell and put full-stops in the right place. That like-thnking oddballs are attracted like flies to shit is, basically, Google’s fault.
The fact that there are such odd, damaged creatures in the world is nothing new, and really nothing to get all facepalmed about. They just look bigger than they are, like an optical illusion..
Now, back to laughing at HYS/Mail boneheads…pleeeease?
For Brager Cunt and mejoff to get ANGRY about.
Tee hee.
that’s amazing, he’s my new number one most fucked up norwegian ever. varg vikernes has nothing on this guy.
it’s still number one, it’s top of the cocks.
Oivind Vinstra with an invasive brain tumour..
Sooner or later, Eivind is going to wind up in prison. As he likes rape so much, he’s going to live there.
From the HYS topic of How concerned are you about your sexual health?
Fairly tame and boring stuff, except I read his name as scottis-handproud on my first read through. Which given the subject matter seemed quite appropriate.
Well you’re never going to get an STD from your own hand – you could get a few nasty blisters if you wank as furiously as ‘scottishandproud’ though…
This is fantastically inane.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2010/08/how_would_you_survive_being_tr.html
Also, 200!
@ Crikey
Whatever happened to a bit of good old fashioned sleep creeping?
So, in response to a question about what you’d do if you were trapped underground, righteoussasquatch turdspurted…
Yes, Mr Sasquatch. That’s right. Being trapped underground the better part of a month, not knowing when, if ever, you are going to be rescued, is exactly the same thing as not agreeing with your elected representatives.
Well, it is if the ones trapped underground are a bunch of dagos, anyway.
megan is a nobber
I know I’m late to this thread, but why are we all assuming that “the long, silvery thread of drool perpetually dangling from your chin” is referring to saliva? It might be post-blowjob cockdribble.
Bet you’re all impressed now, eh?