Curtain Twitchers and Grief Athletes and Self-appointed Sages28 Oct 2010 07:30 am
By Gainsbourg

Crikey found this story on the Daily Record website, concerning one “tragic businesswoman” who’d jumped to her death from the fourth floor of an Edinburgh hotel. That this tragic businesswoman chose to take her own life at rush-hour, the Record considers to be a very important detail. So let’s not forget that. Ever. On her headstone should be engraved:

Tragic Businesswoman, b. 1980 ~ d. rush-hour 2010

People often wonder what’s a decent length of time before it’s acceptable to start being honest about the dead. With suicide, you can safely bypass all that. It’s the point at which a life may be reduced to an inconvenience, and the usual rules are suspended. Your ignorant squawks of disapproval will generally be tolerated, sometimes applauded, even before rigor mortis has set in. And if anyone doesn’t like it you can lean on the mantlepiece, wagging finger aloft, and go: “blah blah selfish waffle waffle cowardly blah blah 3-mile tailback.” Others will sit around in plush armchairs, nodding sagely and occasionally harrumphing. An ornate Georgian clock will tick in the background.

None of this will make you any less of a cunt, but at least you’ll believe that you’ve claimed the moral high ground and eventually die with a clear conscience. And on that score at least, you’ll have won.

You’ll have fucking won.

i don’t get it why do people take their own lives

no matter how bad or dire your life is you need to say to yourself its going to get better

my heart goes out to the family
3inarowithinkno

Just remember that, when you’re standing on the edge of existence, deafened by the screams of a tormented world, nothing but bleak plains of sorrow sprawling endlessly before you, and behind you, the cracked shell of your own soul. Remember: it’s going to get better.

Goodness, what came over me? Sorry about that, vicar. Another slice of parkin?

im sorry, i have been severely depressed and considered suicide myself, but i would never have dreamed of doing so in a way that others are involved. i cant bring myself to feel sorry for the woman, who would put people in that situation to have to witness that??? what about the poor kids that would have been subjected to that??? or the poor people she may have took out with her??? sorry to her family, but im terribly sorry, she not getting my simpathy vote
amber78

There’s a certain breed of human being whose first instinct, when faced with a tragedy of some kind, is to start snuffling round for reasons not to give a shit. amber78 is a fine example. Even with the supposed ability to view the event through the prism of shared experience, she’s more than happy to toss that prism aside and say, “nope, I refuse to let this ruin one second of my day! And here’s why: blah blah selfish, etc.”

Perhaps they fear the weight of empathy will overwhelm them, and are trying to convince themselves more than they are the rest of us. Perhaps they’re too unimaginative to see such complex and emotive issues in anything other than purely binary terms. Perhaps they’re just arseholes. Whatever. They fill me with equal parts boredom and despair, and I wish they’d keep their opinions to themselves.

238 Responses to “Milk Of Human Kindness, Use By 12.10.10”

  1. on 28 Oct 2010 at 7:53 am Mr Poo

    The question, of course, is “Did she jump or was she pushed?” After all, language mutilation like this “sentence”…

    or the poor people she may have took out with her???

    …is certainly enough to make me want to throw amber78 off the fourth floor of an Edinburgh hotel into rush hour traffic.

  2. on 28 Oct 2010 at 8:42 am Arseington

    Tragic, but at least it was a five star HILTON owned hotel she jumped from. Classy lady. I’m glad our press has it’s reporting priorities correct.

  3. on 28 Oct 2010 at 8:43 am RIPOFF BRITIAN

    what about the poor kids

    3inarow thinks an awful lot about kids, methinks, and doth protest too much.

    Pedo.

  4. on 28 Oct 2010 at 9:36 am Michael

    I know people who were there; it was a big mess but there was no danger of her hitting kids on the way to school; the nearest one is nearly a mile away and the hotel is in the middle of the financial district. Wage slave, yes. Kids, no.

    You may also not get the symbolism of 3inarow s name; he’s a Rangers fan and therefore part of Scotlands brain dead underclass (don’t get me started on the other half of the downtrodden plastic paddys)

  5. on 28 Oct 2010 at 10:08 am James Mann

    I enjoyed (translation: wanted to prick out my eyes with a safety pin) this comment on same from saltcoats:

    ‘a sad tale but what relevance does the statement of Andrew Wright have ? he never saw it happen he turned up 10 minutes later, and how does a Big Issue vendor manage to go home soon after that, aren’t they meant to be homeless?????’

    The idea that a Big Issue seller has anywhere else to go after work other than a rat-infested piss-stained cardboard box clearly outrages saltcoats’ delicate sensibilities. The cunt.

  6. on 28 Oct 2010 at 10:13 am Crikey

    Gainsbourg has done this story justice. I was cycling by and saw the poor woman’s body draped in a blanket with bits of blood on it. Had I been ten minutes earlier I sadly would have seen her jump, something I’m glad I missed to be frank. Amber78 is clearly a twat and doesn’t have clinical depression – I can tell you that I do and the last thing you think about when your brain breaks into automatic “top yourself” pilot, is the consequences of your actions. Something has broken far beyond any logical reason if you want to kill yourself so yes, this woman does deserve sympathy because she must have been in a desperate state. Amber78 on the other hand probably equates “severe depression” with a case of the winter blues and getting over Jordan and Pete’s break up.

    Cunt.

  7. on 28 Oct 2010 at 10:55 am Undemocratic Speed Bump

    i cant bring myself to feel sorry for the woman

    For most people empathy comes relatively easy in times of tragedy. But for amber87 it’s a real challenge that requires pushing and convincing yourself it’s worth it. Like a hangover poo

  8. on 28 Oct 2010 at 11:31 am Turdingstock

    Saltcoats has the best response.

    a sad tale but what relevance does the statement of Andrew Wright have ? he never saw it happen he turned up 10 minutes later, and how does a Big Issue vendor manage to go home soon after that, aren’t they meant to be homeless?????

    A young woman cannot bear life in spite of her successes. The story has the potential to cause one to contemplate their own existence. But, what the fuck is the Record reporting on all this shit for when a Big Issue vendor might actually have a home? I don’t buy the magazine or anything, but he could be a fucking immigrant as well.

  9. on 28 Oct 2010 at 11:31 am brager cunt

    but im terribly sorry, she not getting my simpathy vote

    Sympathy vote? Was she running for some sort of public office as well? Well I’m terribly, terribly sorry, but she can’t top herself and expect to get voted in.

  10. on 28 Oct 2010 at 11:43 am Mim

    @Crikey: Nasty small-minded people get depression too. Maybe Amber78 has managed to plumb the abyss without in any way gaining any sort of insight or empathy, and has rebuilt herself into the mental-illness equivalent of the self-made prick who believes that if he can do it so can anyone and that the unemployed should therefore be rounded up and shot.

    I hope that if I ever relapse to the point of being suicidal again I can retain enough of a grasp of normality to attempt to land on Amber78. That way at least she’d actually have something to accuse me of in her dying breath that wasn’t just a sign of her unbelievable resistance to compassion.

  11. on 28 Oct 2010 at 11:58 am Phoar!

    it’s a real challenge that requires pushing and convincing yourself it’s worth it. Like a hangover poo

    Snort!

  12. on 28 Oct 2010 at 12:29 pm Mim

    Damn. Have felt guilty since I posted that.

    Maybe she’s mainly motivated by her own guilt at having considered suicide, maybe part of her resents the fact that someone else has taken what could still be quite an appealing way out of a situation that she’s still trapped in. It was very unfair of me to suggest that she must necessarily be an awful person.

    That said, she really didn’t have to post her comment. And the things she does to question marks are inexcusable.

  13. on 28 Oct 2010 at 12:55 pm Louisa

    These reactions remind me of a similar situation a few months agao when JSP wrote that inflammatory, badly expressed article on depression, which some interpreted as calling depression pretty much “the newest in thing to have”. I realise that is simplifying what she wrote, but the point is still the same.

    A lot of people seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding to the true nature of depression and severe mental illness. You can see it from time to time with the reporting of schizophrenia (or even the use of the word in day to day language).

    It saddens me that people feel the need to put such insensitive comments on the article. Perhaps they should try researching depression instead of slamming out an ill-informed comment with a screwed up fist of indignation.

    It’s only my personal view, but I believe if someone had truly experienced major, chronic depression they wouldn’t be so swift to denounce the poor woman.

    *Sigh*

  14. on 28 Oct 2010 at 1:09 pm Fish

    Depression, of course, doesn’t exist, it’s only an excuse used by benefit scroungers to claim £5,000 a week in DLA and Housing Benefit. Apparently.

    What we need is to reassess everybody to make sure they’re properly mad. And just to make sure, let’s have the assessments conducted by someone with an indepth knowledge of psychology, psychiatry and the delicate nature of work rehabilitation. Like a gynaecologist. [/true story, sadly]

  15. on 28 Oct 2010 at 1:42 pm Jones

    i don’t get it why do people take their own lives

    no matter how bad or dire your life is you need to say to yourself its going to get better

    my heart goes out to the family
    3inarowithinkno

    I think he’s selling himself short. In the “Inane Statements of a Fuckwit” category, that’s totally a three-in-a-row.

  16. on 28 Oct 2010 at 2:51 pm Rotwatcher

    On The Guardian’s CiF pages there was an article bemoaning the treatment of the “Baby P” case by politicians. A maggot living in a turd called Meravie wondered

    I rarely see much coverage of incidents where the elderly in care homes have been murdered through negligence, and this is far more common. Why the focus on one bloody baby?

  17. on 28 Oct 2010 at 3:23 pm Kris

    JSP wrote that inflammatory, badly expressed article on depression, which some interpreted as calling depression pretty much “the newest in thing to have”. I realise that is simplifying what she wrote, but the point is still the same.

    Is that simplifying? The headline was ‘Depression; it’s just the the trendy new illness!’

    Maybe you’re giving that squaking crow woman too much credit. And by too much, I mean any.

  18. on 28 Oct 2010 at 3:27 pm rube

    The Daily Record can consider itself in priveleged company in that it shares the distinction of being labeled ‘Scotlands Shame’ alongside obesity, binge drinking, heart disease and some football hooligans.

  19. on 28 Oct 2010 at 3:33 pm Fish

    But Kirsty Wark more than makes up for it.

  20. on 28 Oct 2010 at 3:53 pm Dean Cramvoid

    It saddens me that people feel the need to put such insensitive comments on the article. Perhaps they should try researching depression instead of slamming out an ill-informed comment with a screwed up fist of indignation.

    Welcome to the Internet. If these people sadden you, perhaps you should try laughing at them and calling them rude names.

    Welcome to SYB.

    And just to make sure, let’s have the assessments conducted by someone with an indepth knowledge of psychology, psychiatry and the delicate nature of work rehabilitation. Like a gynaecologist. [/true story, sadly]

    Were his initials AKB?

    A maggot living in a turd called Meravie

    So is Meravie a turd-dwelling maggot, or a turd with a maggot inside her that does her thinking for her?

    Anyway, that Alan Turing, he was a selfish bastard too, leaving apple cores lying around to go mouldy on the lino. If he’d just had the courage to hold on for another thirteen years till homosexuality was legalised, everything would have got better.

  21. on 28 Oct 2010 at 4:06 pm Crikey

    I know it was the Daily Record – hardly a pillar of quality journalism, I know. However, a Google search with “woman suicide edinburgh” threw up that little gem and it’s good to share. Especially when the people typing on the interweb are special little wankers. I’m still getting over Saltcoats assertion that the man selling the Big Issue clearly had no place commenting on the event when 1) he didn’t see her jump and 2) was homeless and therefore lived in a piss-stained cardboard box – and how dare he call it anything like a home when clearly that’s a damned lie. I bet Saltcoats routinely savages the homeless people of Edinburgh and deliberately doesn’t buy the Big Issue from homeless people because they’re not really homeless.

    He’s doing a real service to the community that Saltcoats, let’s not discourage the fella!

  22. on 28 Oct 2010 at 4:08 pm Rotwatcher

    So is Meravie a turd-dwelling maggot, or a turd with a maggot inside her that does her thinking for her?

    Either. Or both.

    @Fish – Up for what does Kirsty Wark make? Ghastly old bat.

  23. on 28 Oct 2010 at 4:13 pm Theodore

    Seeing the lady fall to her death from the 4th floor would have been a terrible thing for a child to witness.
    However, if she dropped an apple at the same time as she jumped, any passing child would have seen the lady and the apple impact at the same time and learnt that the mass of an object does not affect the rate of acceleration due to gravity – and they wouldn’t forget it.
    If only suicidal people could just be a little more considerate when they decide enough is enough and maybe create something out of their deaths.

  24. on 28 Oct 2010 at 4:51 pm Lurker in a Burkha

    I read this with some sadness, it reminded me a little of the death of a scientist driving a G-Wiz the other week and the total outpouring of cuntiffery that followed on the Daily mail’s comments section.

    You don’t need to be psychic to guess what sort of shit most readers have spewed forth, but as an example:

    Natural selection in action methinks. You want to buy a pathetically inadequate car for the road in every sense, from safety to day-to-day practicality, then eventually you are going to come a cropper. The saying “Oh dear, what a pity, never mind….” has never seemed more apt.
    - Dave-O, Wirral, 23/10/2010 18:02

    Methinks Dave-O is a total, utter fuckstick

  25. on 28 Oct 2010 at 5:31 pm Undemocratic Speed Bump

    @Lurkha

    Class act rachel is near the top:

    she couldnt have been that intelligent if she thought that car would offer her any protection what so ever

    Yeah, you tell her. And let every cyclist and pedestrian you ever see near a road that they’re raving fuckwits as well.

  26. on 28 Oct 2010 at 6:34 pm Louisa

    @Kris.

    Fair point, I had admittedly forgotten just how bad the article was. I just remembered thinking it was one of the worst things I’d ever read at the time.

    I just couldn’t bring myself to read it again to remind myself what was actually in it.

    You’re right, I doubt she deserves any credit. The whole thing is just self-righteous bullshit.

  27. on 28 Oct 2010 at 6:43 pm Louisa

    @Dean Cramvoid, yeah I know. I’ve been reading this site for a few years now but I don’t usually bother to comment because the article is usually enough to speak for itself.

    I should know better than to lament it really. But I can’t help but want to put my face through the screen sometimes…

  28. on 28 Oct 2010 at 6:43 pm Fish

    Were his initials AKB?

    Hear that whooshing sound of that going right over my head? Is it a Dead Ringers thing?

  29. on 28 Oct 2010 at 6:46 pm random punter

    @Dean

    Were his initials AKB?

    Bastard! I was drinking when I read that and something went down the wrong way, and now I’m stuck in a coughing fit!

    And there’s something creepy about the way amber78 refers to “the woman”. As if the use of a pronoun would have humanised her somehow…… we can’t have that can we amber, you sermonising fuckwit?

  30. on 28 Oct 2010 at 6:48 pm random punter

    @ Fish

    Check: http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/?s=andy+kadir+buxton&submit=Search

  31. on 28 Oct 2010 at 6:50 pm Kris

    You don’t know about AKB? Man, you’re in for a treat. Put ‘Andy Kadir-Buxton’ in the SYB search bar. And google the Kadir-Buxton method.

  32. on 28 Oct 2010 at 6:53 pm Gainsbourg

    I used to work with a ‘man’ who refused to buy the Big Issue because its vendors were too clean.

  33. on 28 Oct 2010 at 7:25 pm Mr Poo

    Turing? Wouldn’t have got better. Why?

    Drinking was better when you were 17 and it was still illegal. When you’re 40 and you need to neck a bottle of gin before going to work, it’s just a chore.

    Same thing for bumming, innit.

  34. on 28 Oct 2010 at 8:54 pm A push button

    I was depressed once.
    But then I bounced back, and I was OK.

  35. on 28 Oct 2010 at 9:06 pm Saint Ted Aunt

    I think I’ve established a new personal record for mood changes – less than thirty seconds from the high of ‘Fantastic, there’s a new SYB!’ to the crushing despair of knowing I share a world with Amber78.

    Still, if this does cause me to have a relapse into my depression, at least I’ll have her holier-than-the-dead sneers to remind me of the proper way to kill myself.

    The crusty cat’s cuntpipe.

  36. on 28 Oct 2010 at 9:52 pm Crikey

    I have to thank you one and all, this thread and its comments have been truly inspiring. Apart from the sadness of the story, the resulting comments towards insensitive twats posting their passing stools for thoughts on a page saying “comment” has had me chuckling no end.

    It took me a few days to forget about seeing that woman on the pavement, mainly because I’ve been in the position where you seriously contemplate ending it all and it’s not a pleasant place to be. Which is why people like Ambersmellypits really get on my tits. Clueless fuckwits. Eye witness accounts of the event are particularly harrowing and I am still in awe that people can be so fucking anal that they complain about the rights of a homeless person to coin the use of the word “homeless” and whether someone at the end of their rope is selfish enough to kill themselves.

    There really are too many people who should be routinely spanked by David Cameron and George Osborne in full S&M garb.

  37. on 28 Oct 2010 at 10:07 pm Fish

    @random punter and @Kris, thanks, if thanks is the right expression: that’s my head fucked for a week now…

  38. on 28 Oct 2010 at 10:29 pm Chris

    @ Saint Ted Aunt

    Cheers! I had similar feelings upon reading this thread this morning but couldn’t bear to articulate them. I was just about to get on the central line. I didn’t want to be a cunt and, well, you know, be an inconvenience to Amber78 and her ilk and throw myself under a train.

  39. on 28 Oct 2010 at 10:36 pm Crikey

    However, I do have one final comment on Amber78. She said she’s contemplated suicide but wouldn’t want to inconvenience others. Well some poor bastard will either search for her if she’s not been back for her beans on toast like she does every Friday or someone will have to notify the cop shop when they find her. Question is, is she more of aninconvenience in life than she would be if…….

    Oh dear, that’s very wrong of me but still – a sick point well made. I’d slap some sense into her if I didn’t think the very action would be an inconvenience to my hand as well as her face.

  40. on 29 Oct 2010 at 12:43 am Kris

    @Fish

    Luckily for you, there is a Method for dealing with a fucked up head.

  41. on 29 Oct 2010 at 12:48 am Kris

    Also, I have never been offered a Big Issue. I would totally buy it every time if I was. I even give money to those guys who make up rubbish stories about being late for a job interview and needing bus money. I just wish they’d be honest. If they need heroin I would just as happily give them the change.

    Either I’m quite nice, or a fucking idiot.

  42. on 29 Oct 2010 at 12:55 am Dipsomaniac Physics Student

    It would be redundant to point out that Amber78 appears to be so lacking in empathy that she might as well be one of Dick’s androids, albeit with an intellect that can barely keep her abreast of her own bowel movements.
    It’s equally redundant to visualise her being tied to a post and pelted with rotting dingo scrotae while her own repellent comments are recited by Brian Blessed, then blasted into her ears by towering speaker stacks for forty-eight hours on the trot, but it cheered me up.
    So does Ian Cheese, thinking deep thoughts on the Lisbon Treaty-

    94. At 4:46pm on 28 Oct 2010, ian cheese wrote:
    89. At 4:37pm on 28 Oct 2010, Peter Bridgemont wrote:
    re-Germany
    ————–
    Please remain in Germany. Deutschland uber alles!
    I thought we fought a war to rid the likes of you of this fancy.,

    - The only person on Earth who likes to cosplay as Basil Fawlty.

    110. At 5:23pm on 28 Oct 2010, ian cheese wrote:
    Get rid of the bureaucracy & the corrupt & freeloading bureaucrats, presently accountable to no one in Brussels. Want an insight? If things continue the way they do, you will find a guerilla army/terrorists fighting against the EU within 10 years! Just logical thinking, mind you, I don’t wish a visit from the Police. However, they are welcome, probably share my views!

    Who says they don’t make ludicrously self-important cockheads like they used to, eh?

  43. on 29 Oct 2010 at 1:07 am Jon

    Yeah, amber78′s post lacks a certain amount of empathy, and is quite naive.

    But my god, the glee with which she’s being judged and picked apart on here makes me feel a little ill.

    I love this site (long time reader, first time commenter, etc etc etc). It would be a shame if the belowtheliners here became as judgmental, blinkered and lacking in compassion as the silly sods that SYB exists to monitor.

  44. on 29 Oct 2010 at 2:30 am Chris

    @ Jon

    A little ill?

    It’s late, I’m drunkish, I can’t complain, I’ve had a good night. Unlike any random about now committing suicide. But fuck em, right? About now I’m laying in tranquility awaiting the next fuckathon. My privileged life is fucking amazing. In fact, I empathise with Amber78.

    Having to non-witness such a traumatic ordeal must really impact on his/her day to day events. Especially when they read an article and spit hot jizzism like a wanker.

    I, obviously, apologise if I’ve come across as a belowtheliner.

    Wha?

    Where’s Kelvin when you need him?

  45. on 29 Oct 2010 at 10:12 am Chatton

    @Jon

    You don’t like the way that she’s been picked apart and judged?! Isn’t that what we do on this site? A bunch of deranged clunges on the internet feel the need to be either stupid/racist/insensitive/stupid and we tear them apart. I can’t figure out if you’re a long term reader why this particular thread tipped the balance for you!

  46. on 29 Oct 2010 at 11:49 am Ugly Newt

    You don’t like the way that she’s been picked apart and
    judged?! Isn’t that what we do on this site?

    One possible reason for all the anger pointed at amber78 is that it’s been a while since the last thread, and the daily hate has been building up.

    Perhaps commenters should adopt a more careful policy for flaming the guest stars: rebut the ill-thought waffle they posted, call them a fauna fundament and move on. Hate the sin, sigh condescendingly at the sinner, and all that.

    We can save the twisted revenge fantasies for persistent bellends like I, Cheese.

  47. on 29 Oct 2010 at 12:17 pm Doe, Adair, a female deer

    It’s a little outside the remit of SYB, but if you fancy some slightly more cheerful mental, have a look at your local authorities website. Find the last report on a consultation. It doesn’t matter what people were consulted about, any one will do. Read the long list of comments submitted by the public (usually in the appendices) until your soul starts to hurt. Feel immense sympathy for the poor bastards that have to staff these consultation events (the written responses are the considered ones, imagine some of the impromptu verbal outbursts).

    As a brief example:

    “with new system, at least 30 councillors are redundant. Close down GCP and associated guano’s down better times come. Make council more efficient (letter 6 pages 1 with just signature on. Duplication departments don’t converse with each other. no leadership. clear out top get fresh blood in. Drop green nonsense. then start looking at services to public which could cut if council ran a tight ship there wouldn’t be a need of cuts and rises in tax.”

    Sounds like someone has dropped a little too much Green Nonsense lately.

  48. on 29 Oct 2010 at 1:08 pm Sheepless

    It would be redundant to point out that Amber78 appears to be so lacking in empathy that she might as well be one of Dick’s androids, albeit with an intellect that can barely keep her abreast of her own bowel movements.

    Dick androids? I don’t know whether to be scared, or aroused.

    I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe… and knobbed them.

  49. on 29 Oct 2010 at 1:25 pm Bugrat

    On Ian Cheese;

    The only person on Earth who likes to cosplay as Basil Fawlty.

    Of course John Cleese was originally called John Cheese.

    Cosplay..?

  50. on 29 Oct 2010 at 1:27 pm ad ho

    im sorry, i have been severely depressed and considered suicide myself, but …

    It may be that she really is susceptible to depression and this story has triggered some of the shitty thoughts that accompany it. After all, the phrase “self-hating depressive” is almost a pleonasm.

    However, if that were the case, I don’t think she would have identified herself as depressive, unless she were to use it as an opportunity to take a few digs at herself. And she wouldn’t bother to say she is sorry for not feeling sorry.

    So it’s just another variation on that tired old construction: I’m not a racist but [..arse-spatter].

    what about the poor kids that would have been subjected to that??? or the poor people she may have took out with her???

    She forgot to mention the tax money used to clean up the pavement. Money that might have been spent on public notices saying: Please show some consideration when disposing of yourself. Remember, this is a business area, not youtube. Thank you..

  51. on 29 Oct 2010 at 1:28 pm Bugrat

    “with new system, at least 30 councillors are redundant. Close down GCP and associated guano’s down better times come. Make council more efficient (letter 6 pages 1 with just signature on. Duplication departments don’t converse with each other. no leadership. clear out top get fresh blood in. Drop green nonsense. then start looking at services to public which could cut if council ran a tight ship there wouldn’t be a need of cuts and rises in tax.”

    That reads like one of my occasional slice n dice versions of Tim Nice But Dim’s arseblurts..

  52. on 29 Oct 2010 at 2:35 pm My Pockets Hurt

    Close down GCP and associated guano’s

    Trying for “quangos” there, I think, with a little Freudian nod to the subconscious knowledge that they are talking shit.

  53. on 29 Oct 2010 at 2:42 pm a Duplication department

    If you are another Duplication department, please don’t read or reply to this message.
    Kind Regards,
    A Duplication department

    We are working hard to drop green nonsense in the most efficient way possible. All our letters are now signed on the first page, leaving five blank pages for you to duplicate and then burn or something.

  54. on 29 Oct 2010 at 3:19 pm Department of Duplication Department

    This page intentionally left blank. Please duplicate, sign and duplicate signature before returning.

  55. on 29 Oct 2010 at 4:03 pm department of leaderless vampires

    Crikey! Don’t clear out top! It’ll let all the sunlight in! But yes please to the fresh blood idea :) =

    Best wishes,
    the vampires

    running wild, playing by our own rules (which are none cos we’re wild LOL.)

  56. on 29 Oct 2010 at 5:39 pm Obamooslim

    I’ve just had a pleonasm.

    In my pants.

  57. on 29 Oct 2010 at 5:49 pm Si

    I don’t mind people feeling desperate enough to kill themselves as long as they do it in a way that doesn’t bother me.

  58. on 29 Oct 2010 at 5:59 pm ad ho

    Want an insight?

    Though this phrase seems like false advertising, it is in fact a hazard-notice as clear as if the speaker were wearing a giant yellow top hat emblazoned with the words: “You are now in the company of a level-4 cretin. May God be with you”.

    If things continue the way they do, you will find a guerilla army/terrorists fighting against the EU within 10 years!

    Hold on, didn’t Nigel Farage crash his plane into a field a few months ago? Shouldn’t he be in an orange boilersuit having his nuts blackjacked by now?

    Just logical thinking, mind you.

    In the sense that any sufficiently advanced logical thinking is indistinguishable from extravagant fantasy.

  59. on 29 Oct 2010 at 6:12 pm Bugrat

    with new system, at least 30 councillors…

    The fact that I read that as “3D councillors” and just assumed it was part of the general clusterfuck in that post. rather than eyesight-fail on my part, is significant.

    Gonna need a bigger font.

  60. on 29 Oct 2010 at 6:44 pm Have Your Lurk

    Is it just me, or are we all recovering manic depressives on SYB?

  61. on 29 Oct 2010 at 6:52 pm Sheepless

    Recovering?

  62. on 29 Oct 2010 at 6:54 pm Mim

    I thought we seemed to be boring old unipolar types on this thread. Still, on balance I’d rather have a mental illness that people think I’m making up than one that makes people think I’m dangerous. Except for when I have my dole medical next month, obviously.

  63. on 29 Oct 2010 at 6:55 pm ad ho

    ‘ark at Lurk, rubbing it in with his fancy ‘recovery’.

  64. on 29 Oct 2010 at 7:08 pm Mim

    He’s just jealous because we’re trendy.

  65. on 29 Oct 2010 at 7:45 pm Johnny Rotten

    Whatever. At least these students will get jobs that will keep their fingers out of the public purse. Unlike those they imitate.
    - Jay, Edinburgh, 29/10/2010 15:00
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    I doubt that very much, most will grow up to be Labour or Torie MP’s.

  66. on 29 Oct 2010 at 8:20 pm ad ho

    @Mim, you appear to be deficient in the pole department, to the tune of one.

  67. on 29 Oct 2010 at 9:40 pm Bugrat

    @Mim, you appear to be deficient in the pole department, to the tune of one.

    I don’t think it works like magnetic poles though. Electrostatically speaking, she could be half-dipolar (given a good ground plane).

    Unless she believes she’s a tent?

    Is Mim a girl? Did I get that wrong? I am in drink (again), but at least it ensures that the glass is always half full :)

  68. on 29 Oct 2010 at 10:42 pm Mim

    “Unipolar” is technically corrrect for boring normal depression, except that nobody ever uses it and it sounds stupid.

    Actually my current diagnosis is dysthymia, and I think I’ve had four different personality disorders depending on the person diagnosing me after half an hour, so I don’t know where I stand on the Janet Street-Porter scale of cool. Dysthymia’s probably like the crappy Primark knock-off of depression. Bah.

    The first Mim on Google appears to be a man, which means that my assumption that it’s too girly a name to cause confusion is horribly wrong. Also Wikipedia says that there is a Tolkien dwarf and a bloke in Norse mythology whose disembodied head Odin carried around. So it is in fact a very manly and probably bearded name, and I should probably stop this whole Google thing now.

    A tent with one pole would be a bit shit, no? Or do I just have a rubbish girly grasp of tent workings?

  69. on 29 Oct 2010 at 10:52 pm Cylux

    A tent with one pole would be a bit shit, no? Or do I just have a rubbish girly grasp of tent workings?

    As a man I can assure you that a tent with only one pole is in fact lots of fun, especially when it is pitched in one’s pants.

    Coat? Aww…

  70. on 29 Oct 2010 at 11:32 pm Kris

    Am I the only one without any kind of personality disorder? I feel so uninteresting.

  71. on 29 Oct 2010 at 11:35 pm Rufus

    Erm, not really that keen on these comments sections, there’s far too many fuckers crawling over each other to interact as it is. It is refreshing to see that we can all agree that we despise some of them but … anyway …. just wanted to say that I thought that was a really touching and human rant Mr Gainsbourg. Well done.

  72. on 29 Oct 2010 at 11:36 pm ad ho

    there is a Tolkien dwarf

    There always is. It’s political correctness gone bloody mad, if you ask me.

    Meanwhile, in the literally real world of proper tents: single-pole tents are made less shit through the use of guy ropes. So, despite any protests to the contrary made by

    there is a Tolkien dwarf

    There always is. It’s political correctness gone bloody mad, if you ask me.

    Or do I just have a rubbish girly grasp of tent workings?

    Single-pole tents are made less shit through the use of guy ropes. So despite any protests to the contrary Cylux may make, I don’t think they were designed with a girly’s grasp in mind.

  73. on 29 Oct 2010 at 11:40 pm ad ho

    fuggitt.

  74. on 30 Oct 2010 at 12:25 am new scientist

    Oh, was that a mistake? I thought you were making a really rubbish ‘bipolar’ joke.

  75. on 30 Oct 2010 at 12:35 am Cylux

    In other news I think I’ve found govt_helper, or at least someone who is just as tiresome:

    http://therightsofman.typepad.co.uk/

  76. on 30 Oct 2010 at 1:55 am Saint Ted Aunt

    @HYL

    You’re on a website where people comment about how bloody awful the fucknuggets on HYS etc. are. Further, judging by the massive backlog of posts they appear to be limitless in supply. On top of that, the general trend of the threads seems to be along the lines of ‘everything is up the shitter and no mistake’.

    With that in mind, it’s a wonder most of the comments thread isn’t just ‘oh, what’s the bloody point’.

  77. on 30 Oct 2010 at 8:24 am Have Your Lurk

    A tent with one pole is a teepee. A wigwam.

    Yes, it’s the shawl with the ethnic Native American fringes.

  78. on 30 Oct 2010 at 8:27 am Have Your Lurk

    Saint Ted Uncle, if I didn’t get a lift from reading syb, then I wouldn’t be here. In fact, if I like syb so much, why… erm…

  79. on 30 Oct 2010 at 10:08 am One wheel on my wagon

    @Mim. You mentioned Googling “Mim” but if you look up Mim in Googlism it says you are the Belgian member of the EFMI. Can I be the first person to send you my congratulations.

  80. on 30 Oct 2010 at 2:04 pm Mim

    Yeah, but it also says I’m suitable only for small parts.

  81. on 30 Oct 2010 at 4:27 pm Obamooslim

    Back (vaguely) OT, I knew someone once who committed suicide by gorging themselves to death on mouldy prawns.

    It was a shellfish act.

  82. on 30 Oct 2010 at 8:27 pm Have Your Lurk

    What a pickled prawn’s pudendum he was, eh?

  83. on 31 Oct 2010 at 1:40 pm Cylux

    HYS is at it again, asking Should schools teach pupils about the dangers of weapons?

    A rather obvious and easy question to answer you might think, except of course that this happens to be a topic that all the rage-fuckers from HYS can happily shoe-horn their favourite talking point into. How everything bad in Britain is the fault of them forrins.

    Is it that we have been satturated with US kulcha?
    Maybe not, thinking about the 20s razor-gangs.
    I suggest stamp out crime at the TOP and the rest will follow.
    chrislabiff

    But where is the TOP you withered weasels wang?

    Ms Kinsella needs to target the real problem in London – the violence coming from the immigrant crime gangs.
    grainsofsand

    Would these be the US kulcha crime gangs then?

    Hi ‘Magi Tatcher’!- ‘grainsofsand’ is not wrong…

    Unfortunately, it’s a sad FACT that knife-crime rose hugely – and continued rising – immediately after Tony Blairs / Labours opening of the immigration ‘flood-gates’.
    I also blame that Government – not just for failing to ‘register’ the arrival of so many immigrants – but also for not CARING if they had a criminal-record beforehand…
    It will take MANY years for this Country to recover from such incompetence – and it’s the vulnerable that CONTINUE to suffer…
    Tez

    Yes it’s a FACT that FLOODS of knife-wielding immigrants came to Britain in order to fulfil some esoteric Zanu Liebour plot to STAB wholesome WHITE ENGLISH NOT BRITISH man-children, thus advancing their NEO-socialist plot to take everyone’s tax money. Or something.

    Urg, I’m not going to try to enter that mindset ever again, I’ll be in the shower washing the cuntery off.

  84. on 31 Oct 2010 at 4:58 pm Have Your Lurk

    I’m a forrin. Does that mean I can go around stabbing people with impunity? ‘Cause I was thinking it’d be much easier with a knife. Yes, it’s the man-size burkha, thanks.

  85. on 31 Oct 2010 at 5:55 pm Michael

    And yet it was ZANU Liebore that set up the eBorders scheme that does criminal record checks before wheels up for EU nationals and the other Schengen countries and the coalition that scrapped that project. Oh, my brain hurts. It’s as if everything in the Daily Mail isn’t true after all.

  86. on 31 Oct 2010 at 6:50 pm Any Rand will do

    @have your lurk

    A tent with one pole is a teepee. A wigwam.

    Close but no cigar. Actually not remotely close. A tipi is a conical structure made with lots of poles. A wigwam is a very different domed shelter also made with multiple poles. No guy ropes.

    Meanwhile Have Your Say is debating (?) Summertime.

    1. At 1:04pm on 29 Oct 2010, scotty1694 wrote:

    erm the world revolves around GMT so why should that change? and i somehow doubt 500m would be magically gained i have a funny feeling that that 500m figure is just as if the hour never got replaced.

    and on another note do they realise how much it would cost to update every compter and all date and time using software? and mass confusion?

    IF ITS NOT BROKE DONT FIX IT

    When you put it like that, fixing all date and time is quite a challenge. The answer: don’t do it using software, get Doctor Who onto the job.

  87. on 31 Oct 2010 at 10:08 pm Have Your Lurk

    I have learned what a teepee and a wigwam are. I thought I knew, but in fact I did not.
    How can I blame this on the increase in immigrant knife crime?

  88. on 31 Oct 2010 at 10:50 pm tw@basket.com

    I love arguing about the time changes. It is a game anybody can play. Nobody can disprove anybody else’s made up statistics for how much money we might save or lives might be saved if only we adopt their preferred scheme, or the cavalcade of death and penury that they predict would stem following the schemes anybody else advocates.

    In the end it all comes down to self-interest, not that any fucker will admit it. People who get up early want it to be light in the morning and hence prefer GMT. People who don’t get up until late advocate GMT+1 (or even GMT+2) so that they can have nice sunny evenings and fuck the plebs freezing in the cold and dark on the way to their jobs.

    It is disappointing to see the lack of imagination here. I haven’t seen anybody suggest anything wackier than double summer time. Given that nothing is going to change anyway, they might as well suggest something interesting, like putting the clocks forward an hour each spring but not putting them back in the autumn as part of an audacious 25 year plan to get a whole day ahead of the French and Germans. That would be worth billions to British industry and save thousands of lives in Yorkshire alone! World domination awaits. Oh yes indeed.

  89. on 01 Nov 2010 at 12:22 am Kris

    Why the fuck don’t people just change their working hours in the winter? Instead of pissing about with our arbitrary time measurements and arguing about it every October, just fucking go to work in the daylight. Who fucking cares?

    Alternatively, don’t just stop changing the clocks twice a year, go mental and make every day have 1237 hours. And in every hour there are 3 seconds. The day will still be there same as ever no matter what imaginary numbers you bung on top of it. And more importantly we can make *insert made up sum of money* from the work the massive demand for new watches will create.

  90. on 01 Nov 2010 at 1:02 am Pete Tong

    Fuck British summertime, I am sticking with English summertime, the haggis bashers and leekmongers and do what they like!

  91. on 01 Nov 2010 at 8:26 am DonkeySquicker

    I like the idea of 3 second hours, so long as I’m allowed to charge the same hourly rate.

    This comment will cost you a thousand pounds.

  92. on 01 Nov 2010 at 11:20 am SoulBoy

    AKB is at it again, commenting on an article on SAD/promotional piece for lovely sunshine breaks in the Canary Islands. In amongst the “pull your socks up” brigade is this little gem -

    What people with SAD need is to use the Kadir-Buxton Tension Sheet, when you know what colour is your Tension colour you can decorate a ‘chill out room’ in your house and chase the blues away.

    - Andy Kadir-Buxton, Hatfield, UK, 1/11/2010 5:03

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1325469/Today-miserable-day-year.html

  93. on 01 Nov 2010 at 12:08 pm Have Your Lurk

    I think for most HYS racists their tension colour would be brown.

  94. on 01 Nov 2010 at 12:10 pm Have Your Lurk

    And regarding time changes, I think we should put the clocks back an hour every time I’m late for work. We can put them forward again at 3pm on Friday afternoons. Do I hear any offers?

  95. on 01 Nov 2010 at 12:18 pm Ugly Newt

    “Kadir Buxton Tension Sheet”? Yes, he really did:

    http://www.kadir-buxton.com/page25.htm

    He’s pleased it was mentioned in Red Dwarf, but apparently he’s not actually seen the episode, because his version involves painting a room a calming colour, rather than carrying a sheet of bubble wrap around.

  96. on 01 Nov 2010 at 1:00 pm ad ho

    I’m disappointed with this ‘tension sheet’. I was expecting some sort of fabric made of bungee-elastic which you stretch at one end until the wall-fasteners release and – THRACK: self-administered Kadir-Buxton methoding magic.

  97. on 01 Nov 2010 at 1:43 pm Bugrat

    People who don’t get up until late advocate GMT+1 (or even GMT+2) so that they can have nice sunny evenings and fuck the plebs freezing in the cold and dark on the way to their jobs.

    Yes, I look forward to permanent GMT+2 so I can sit out on the patio of a pallid December evening in a duffle coat, muffler and wellies, sipping on a hot toddy. Bliss!

  98. on 01 Nov 2010 at 2:29 pm Johnny Rotten

    It’s high time this happened. If we can afford to fund two-legged garbage fast-breeders and illegal immigrants/’asylum seekers’, surely we should be able to afford to spend a few measly quid to keep our citizens alive?
    - Philip, Bankrupted Britain, 1/11/2010 0:57
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  99. on 01 Nov 2010 at 2:34 pm Lentil Molester

    And regarding time changes, I think we should put the clocks back an hour every time I’m late for work. We can put them forward again at 3pm on Friday afternoons. Do I hear any offers?

    I disagree.

    I think we should switch to GMT+104 at 9am Monday and then go back to GMT at 5pm Friday. Splendid!¬

  100. on 01 Nov 2010 at 3:57 pm DonkeySquicker

    I dunno. I reckon if you go the other way and go to GMT- you can use it to go faster than light, and who would turn down a chance to do that?

  101. on 01 Nov 2010 at 3:58 pm DonkeySquicker

    That was supposed to be GMT – some number, but I cocked up and used angle brackets.

  102. on 01 Nov 2010 at 4:38 pm Ugly Newt

    I think we should switch to GMT+104 at 9am Monday and then go back to GMT at 5pm Friday.

    But then you’ll start doing next week’s work before the end of this week. Many of us don’t even do this week’s work this week.

  103. on 01 Nov 2010 at 5:40 pm Have Your Lurk

    Surely AKB has some form of complicated slap that makes you think it’s an hour earlier, or later, as required at the time of administration? Everybody could be on GMT plus, uh…

  104. on 01 Nov 2010 at 11:40 pm Mim

    AKB has once again overcomplicated things. Surely it’s quicker just to ask the Dulux dog?

  105. on 02 Nov 2010 at 9:01 am Extractor Fan

    I don’t like tractors any more.

  106. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:00 am eleanora_

    Good to see AKB’s back once again with the ill behaviour. If only I’d known before that the effects of dark mornings and early, dark evenings could be effectively countered by something so simple as hot-footing it down to B&Q and gazing upon the Dulux paint-samples-sheet-thing until enlightenment was achieved.

    From the great man himself:

    [blockquote]I thought it would be a great idea to stare at a piece of green paper in order to relax myself, but green cardboard from the stationery shop had no effect. Undeterred, I tried other colours and came upon one which did relax me. I then set about testing the colours of the rainbow in the stationery shop on other people that were stressed and found that everyone has a colour of cardboard that has a soporific affect. The Tension Sheet was born. I soon carried out a test on those with high blood pressure, and found that The Tension Sheet reduced the blood pressure to lower than normal figures in just minutes and recommend that a tension sheet is carried at all times, and that a chill-out room should be painted in the right colour in every tension sufferers home. It is certainly easier to stare at a correctly coloured piece of cardboard or wall for a few minutes than the interference with breathing patterns that most mediation involves. And it has better results[...]

    A donation to your favourite Third World charity by way of thanks would be nice.[/blockquote]
    Genius.

  107. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:02 am eleanora_

    Fugging cunting blockquotes.

  108. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:14 am Kris

    In case anyone hasn’t seen this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11671164

    retreat to your nuclear bunkers. There’s a shitstorm a-brewing.

  109. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:15 am Master of all Brackets in the Universe

    Fugging cunting blockquotes.

    Try these. I have some spare.

    <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>

  110. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:20 am eleanora_

    Very kind of you, Master.

  111. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:27 am Albert Angelo

    There’s a shitstorm a-brewing.

    Yep, you’re right. The very first comment yields this gem:

    1. At 04:02am on 02 Nov 2010, Runckle wrote:

    …A Human right is a priviledge not a God given right. First, you have to act like a human being before you get the right!

  112. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:31 am eleanora_

    Yeah! They should totally rename it “The Human Priviledges [sic] Act”, said priviledges only to be afforded to those that Runckle deems worthy. What a camel’s cornhole.

  113. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:31 am Albert Angelo

    (To be honest, I didn’t get further than the first few comments before I was buried in a cunt avalanche – and not in a good way.)

  114. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:56 am Kris

    I didn’t venture below the line to the cunts (not in a good way). Haven’t got the stones.

  115. on 02 Nov 2010 at 12:05 pm Ugly Newt

    …A Human right is a priviledge not a God given right.

    In another context, that sentence could be the start of someone’s path to enlightenment: Acknowledging that some of the things that we think are basic human rights, that should be afforded to everyone, are actually the symptoms of privilege. With an anticreationist argument thrown in for good measure.

    But the next sentence whacks any nascent clues back into the ground.

    First, you have to act like a human being before you get the right!

    In other words: privilege is a state that can be achieved by every human with little or no effort – and if you didn’t lead your life the way Runckle did, you’re not human. And that’s the way it Should be. Now do as Runckle says or it’s no rights for you, kid.

    What a llama lovespud.

  116. on 02 Nov 2010 at 1:41 pm Mary

    Meanwhile, on the Guardian, in an article about poo, nodandwink says:

    To the Moderator of this thread “Why did you remove my poem that describes ALL of the diseases that are a scourge too Africa and many other parts of this planet?”not only diarrhoea, which nearly killed me whilst fighting for the likes of you in Egypt(Suez) is it because Rose George was upset by the graphic description I gave of these death sentence afflictions, I have seen them close up and the sight and smells are unforgettable, or is it some right wing bigot who is racist in the extreme…..

    Nod and Wink, Mrs Brown was is poem and as the copyright owner I gave the Guardian the authority to print it

    How I wish I had seen the poem.

  117. on 02 Nov 2010 at 2:06 pm Throbbe

    When you’re getting in a state
    cos’ you’ve left it very late
    diarrhoea diarrhoea

    and so forth

    def info.

  118. on 02 Nov 2010 at 3:33 pm ad ho

    …A Human right is a priviledge not a God given right.

    Priviledge: – Noun A narrow, elevated fixture intended for shitting on the people below.

  119. on 02 Nov 2010 at 4:15 pm Turdingstock II

    @Mary, I agree. The Guardian needs to publish that poem.

    diarrhoea, which nearly killed me whilst fighting for the likes of you in Egypt(Suez)

    What the fuck happened to this guy in Egypt? What the hell was he fighting? I can think of no circumstances where I could claim to have fought off diarrhea for my country?

  120. on 02 Nov 2010 at 4:15 pm Bugrat

    ..before I was buried in a cunt avalanche..

    mmm…cunts

    (I don’ need no stinkin coat..)

  121. on 02 Nov 2010 at 4:22 pm Bugrat

    When you’re getting in a state
    cos’ you’ve left it very late
    diarrhoea diarrhoea

    Isn’t that from Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen?

  122. on 02 Nov 2010 at 4:40 pm eleanora_

    Wait a minute, he wrote a poem about shitting himself copiously in hot weather and the moderators removed it? Censorship gone mad!!!1

  123. on 02 Nov 2010 at 4:51 pm Mary

    @eleanora_ – a poem about shitting himself copiously in hot weather entitled “Nod And Wink, Mrs Brown”.

  124. on 02 Nov 2010 at 4:53 pm eleanora_

    “Nod And Wink, Mrs Brown Eye” more like. Dirty beggar.

  125. on 02 Nov 2010 at 5:17 pm DonkeySquicker

    Brown eyes brown eyes do a good turn every day…

  126. on 02 Nov 2010 at 5:30 pm eleanora_

    Brown eye, burning like fire…

    Coat on, ready to depart.

  127. on 02 Nov 2010 at 5:35 pm Ed aka Voltaire

    I can think of no circumstances where I could claim to have fought off diarrhea for my country?

    Obviously you hate America. (sick)

  128. on 02 Nov 2010 at 5:48 pm eleanora_

    If anyone’s stuck for something to chortle at, Cuger Brant’s been having a right ole rant on Twitter. I’d post samples but I can’t get onto Twitter from here. He’s @CugerBrant (surprisingly).

  129. on 02 Nov 2010 at 8:30 pm Any Rand will do

    From that prisoners getting the vote HYS cuntstorm:

    79. At 07:19am on 02 Nov 2010, OldGitRen wrote:

    It’s to be expected, really.
    If a 20-year old, single mother of 4, living in a detatched home, with all healthcare, schooling, and other ‘essential’ costs paid for by the taxpayer, claims that it’s ‘her right’ to be a money-grabbing burden on society, then why not give prisoners the right to vote?

    I really can’t see the difference between the two.

    Most. Logical. Argument. Ever.

  130. on 02 Nov 2010 at 8:53 pm Turd-for-hands

    @Any Rand will do, just an excellent topic. Thanks.

    European Court of Human Rights have declared that prisoners ought to have the right vote. Then the BBC asks the British public what it thinks about that. I am not sure who is having a laugh here, but someone is pissing themselves laughing.

    Above all, the timing is exquisite, happybrian123′s short insane rant explains it all.

    This and joining of our Forces with the French… blah blah… withdraw from the EU now… blah blah… Prince Charles will not be King of Great Britain… blah… One final word Bilderberger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bilderberger?

  131. on 02 Nov 2010 at 9:05 pm eleanora_

    Build-a-burger? Sounds delicious!

    No need, I haven’t taken it off since last time.

  132. on 02 Nov 2010 at 9:36 pm Sheepless

    Several days late, I know, but I’d like to point out that “guy ropes” is a very sexist term.

    Wait a minute, he wrote a poem about shitting himself copiously in hot weather and the moderators removed it? Censorship gone mad!!!1

    Truly, he is the Wilfrid Owen du nos jours. In fifty years’ time, schoolkids will be studying his shit poetry at GCSE.

  133. on 02 Nov 2010 at 9:36 pm Have Your Lurk

    Extractor Fan,

    There’s a new film out soon called ‘Tractor’.

    I saw the trailer for it last night.

  134. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:19 pm new scientist

    Fuck me…

    I am 100% British. I served for 27 years in the British army. My pension is taxed in the UK at source. However, because I worked abroad after leaving the army and then retired to France, I DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE. It is ludicrous to give the vote to convicted felons while denying it to expats like me.

    I’m not allowed to vote in the UK JUST BECAUSE I live in another country!!!! How is that fair!!!! And yet these people who LIVE IN THE UK are allowed to VOTE IN THE UK!!! PC gone mad etc.

  135. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:24 pm eleanora_

    Can’t he vote by post? Is he a British citizen? Is he a cormorant’s crusty cockring? At least one of these questions can be answered in the affirmative.

  136. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:55 pm Undemocratic Speed Bump

    @ eleanor_

    Thanks for the Cuger update. He clearly Googles himself. I didn’t think he’d been mentioned on here for ages, but a tweet on 31st Oct is angry at us. My favourite is this one though:

    Well, I do tend to get exited!!

    From where Cuger?! From where?

    Love that he sees being able to write coherently and writing a book as two non-related activities.

  137. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:56 pm Bogan tax exile

    @Sheepless

    Well, if we’re going back several days I’ll retrospectively say that:

    I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe… and knobbed them.

    covered my monitor in crab meat and avocado!

  138. on 02 Nov 2010 at 11:59 pm Bogan tax exile

    However, because I worked abroad after leaving the army and then retired to France, I DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

    Either he’s a massively lying lama’s labia – or he changed his nationality …. since he’s 100% ENGLISH, I’m going with the labia.

  139. on 03 Nov 2010 at 12:00 am eleanora_

    I also love how he insults his followers while asking them to buy his book:

    Now why don’t you lot download my little stories on your needful things. They do not cost a lot. And read them in front of others. I am sure they will be impressed! Well you will anyway! Think what it will do for your ego and self-esteem!

    Marketing genius. Though I’m betting he’d be the only person who’d be impressed, methinks, if I’m right etc.

  140. on 03 Nov 2010 at 6:55 am Mr Ed

    A Christmas Carol by Cuger Brant

    It was the day before Christmas as the thoroughly disgruntled man pushed through the busy throng of people. He felt thoroughly ‘miffed’ (and that is being gentle on the emotion he felt). He hated them, despised them, they filled him with contempt. The thought, ‘pathetic idiots’, ran through his mind.

    He decided to buy a coffee and escape this melee of humankind jostling and pushing around him. He sat at a table outside a café in Ely Court. No! It was not a court of law. It was the name of an outside thoroughfare of the local shopping mall…

    And so on and so forth, excellent stuff.

    http://www.smashwords.com/extreader/read/19834/3/a-christmas-carol

  141. on 03 Nov 2010 at 9:14 am Extractor Fan

    Extractor Fan,

    There’s a new film out soon called ‘Tractor’.

    I saw the trailer for it last night.

    Good. Despite not liking tractors any more, I do like trailers.

  142. on 03 Nov 2010 at 11:20 am eleanora_

    @Mr Ed – verily he is the Tolstoy of our time.

  143. on 03 Nov 2010 at 11:25 am eleanora_

    Though I’m pretty sure the Cuger-porn we collectively wrote* is itself of more literary value than the great man’s output.

    *yes, really.

  144. on 03 Nov 2010 at 11:26 am DonkeySquicker

    Doesn’t it bother you that tractors always seem to be able to pull the trailers?

  145. on 03 Nov 2010 at 12:34 pm Mr ed

    Say what you like about the Dostoevsky of our time, but he stick’s to the English teacher’s maxim of writing about what you know, for lo, here is ‘Ely Court’ of ‘Royal Tunbridge Wells” which one do you think he is?

    http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1046923

    The story gets less realistic when he gets to the bit where he has a vision of the trenches and is gassed and eviscerated…

  146. on 03 Nov 2010 at 12:39 pm Albert Angelo

    @eleanora_:
    Thanks for pointing me in the direction of @Cugerbrant. Hilarious!
    One of my faves:

    Do you know what really miffs me, really, flippin, miffs me? Flippin people who dare, dare! criticise my English!

    Don’t make Cugar miffed. You wouldn’t like him when he’s miffed.

  147. on 03 Nov 2010 at 12:39 pm Albert Angelo

    Cugar = Cuger, obviously (D’oh!)

  148. on 03 Nov 2010 at 12:42 pm eleanora_

    Careful there. He’s not only miffed, he’s *flippin’* miffed, and playing it fast and loose with the rules of grammar – clearly a man on the edge!

  149. on 03 Nov 2010 at 2:39 pm Sheepless

    That can’t be real muthaflippin Brant: not enough adverbs.

  150. on 03 Nov 2010 at 2:43 pm new scientist

    Great, thanks guys. I now have Cugster tweets as my latest distraction from my work. I must say, this one was particularly profound:

    Question. Why do kids like killing everyone?

  151. on 03 Nov 2010 at 2:58 pm DonkeySquicker

    Question. Why do kids like killing everyone?

    Because it is the only way to stop The David.

  152. on 03 Nov 2010 at 3:23 pm eleanora_

    @DonkeySquicker: laughing like a weirdo at my desk now, thanks.

    I’ve just dug back through his posts from August, and found the following wallowings:

    The trouble is; I have very little to no idea how to use the ‘internet’ properly. I often have asked myself after spending hours on the computer, what am I doing? Just what do I get out of it all? Is it really worth it? I have made no friends, have made no money, just dithered and delved, peeked and watched. In mafact, [sic] it just costs me, money! To add insult to injury, all at the expense of someone actually reading my works and criticising!!

    Oh come off it, Cuges, you thrive on our attentions. *bats eyelashes*

    He’s also pretty deep though:

    Talking of whiskey or, whisky. Did you know Irish whiskey is spelt different from Scottish whisky?

    …Whoah. Whoah. Hold the bus. Really?

  153. on 03 Nov 2010 at 3:36 pm Oaf

    And apparently, cheese is spelled differently to helicopter.

  154. on 03 Nov 2010 at 4:34 pm Mr Poo

    However, because I worked abroad after leaving the army and then retired to France, I DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

    Of course you don’t, at least not in the presidential or senatorial elections. You’d have to take French citizenship for that. You do get to vote (and even stand) in the local mayoral elections, and you get to vote in the European elections.

    And, of course, you have a postal vote in the UK.

  155. on 03 Nov 2010 at 4:55 pm Kris

    Though I’m pretty sure the Cuger-porn we collectively wrote* is itself of more literary value than the great man’s output.

    *yes, really.

    I actually thought the bit that Mr Ed posted WAS the one we all did. Seriously.

  156. on 03 Nov 2010 at 5:07 pm Ugly Newt

    And, of course, you have a postal vote in the UK.

    Postal votes don’t count. He wants to be able to put on a blazer and queue up in the nearest church hall to vote, just like those people living in the UK can. What’s the point in voting like a selfish prick if you can’t do so in the presence of the people who’ll get screwed over?

    Is the whiskey/whisky thing really that obvious? I’d seen both spellings, but never made the connection with country of origin.

  157. on 03 Nov 2010 at 5:11 pm eleanora_

    Well, I thought it was, but then again I’m descended from ginger kilt-wearers who enjoy the odd dram of whisky-not-whiskey.

  158. on 03 Nov 2010 at 8:38 pm Have Your Lurk

    My wife ran away once, but I soon tractor down.

    It’s the fake Barbour, thanks.

  159. on 03 Nov 2010 at 8:44 pm Have Your Lurk

    An interesting fact about Scotch whisky is that it’s malted over turf, whereas Irish whiskey is malted over anthracite, which is imported at huge expense from Wales. Despite Ireland’s being carpeted in turf.
    Also, a few years ago I read that all Scotch made today is filtered through asbestos to remove some impurities that precipitate when ice is added to the whiskey. (I don’t know if the Irish do it, but it wouldn’t surprise me, being Irish.) Does anyone know if this is true? Cuger Brant is not allowed to reply.

  160. on 03 Nov 2010 at 9:13 pm One wheel on my wagon

    Meanwhile, back at Have you mentalism’s quest to see if we should have trials without jury “No victim no crime” speaks for a grateful innumerate nation “No no no and thrice no”. Block quotes are a bit nouveau aren’t they?

  161. on 03 Nov 2010 at 9:14 pm One wheel on my wagon

    p.s. ignore the adjectives, I am not Cuger Brant.

  162. on 04 Nov 2010 at 1:17 am One of the Eds

    I’m pretty sure Commissioner for Victims of Crime Louise Casey stole my bicycle.

  163. on 04 Nov 2010 at 2:32 am C Brant fan

    Impressed to see @CugerBrant has Kent Police TWells following him.

  164. on 04 Nov 2010 at 10:11 am Albert Angelo

    Impressed to see @CugerBrant has Kent Police TWells following him.

    I noticed that too. Perhaps they’re investigating crimes against literature.

  165. on 04 Nov 2010 at 1:41 pm Turd-signs-Eurofighter-deal-in-Libya

    Should Britain and France co-operate militarily. It is as if the faceless Eurocrats know nothing of the Battle of La Roche-Derrien, the Siege of Boulogne, or suspected French involvement in Jacobite rebellion.

    Great comments, summed up eloquently in this sentence…

    Can Britain really trust the French…?

    Dave666, though, gives the best analysis.

    Attempts to adopt measures like this smack of manipulation by Brussels to further reduce our National Independence.

    This is Dave666′s standard response to any piece of legislation, policy, proposal ever made in the history of man.

  166. on 04 Nov 2010 at 5:00 pm ad ho

    If Herman van Rompuy is Senator Palpatine and Jean Claude van Damme is Darth Maul, then that would make Dave666 a Bantha-fanny.

  167. on 05 Nov 2010 at 11:05 am eleanora_

    I don’t think Cuger Brant gets the recognition he deserves. By way of addressing this injustice, I just gave @CugerBrant his very first FollowFriday mention on Twitter, and would be most grateful if those Twits among us could do the same. Let’s see if we can’t get him a semi-decent following for his tweets of depth, wisdom and perspicacity… or at least seriously confuse him.

  168. on 05 Nov 2010 at 7:49 pm Cylux

    Frank Kirkton reminded me today that altruism is not dead. Yet.

    The system must remain as it is. I, for one, object to the idea that there is a “right” to “harvest” my corpse for spare parts, my objections are not of a religious nature, but rather that I have yet to hear of any of the recipients of organs ever express gratitude only their rights. Those who call for a change in “donation” seem to forget that death has to occur before “harvest” a little compassion might be in order here.

    Aye, those selfish fuckers requiring organ transplants, they never say please or thank you do they?

    I mean you don’t see Frank there demanding as his right an actual working brain, rather than the burnt yoghurt with a couple of electrodes in it that he’s struggling along with now. Clearly a saint among men.

  169. on 05 Nov 2010 at 8:03 pm Mim

    I love “I have yet to hear of”. As though anyone talks to him.

  170. on 05 Nov 2010 at 8:23 pm Have Your Lurk

    Why do I sincerely doubt that organ recipients think of recently dead people’s organs as rightfully theirs?

  171. on 05 Nov 2010 at 8:31 pm Have Your Lurk

    And why do I wonder what Frank’s attitude to my liver and kidneys would be if he suddenly found himself without any?

  172. on 05 Nov 2010 at 8:41 pm john Adair's Gerbil

    Frank’s going to hear fuck-all once he’s dead.

    Which will be soon, one hopes – we need all the unused penises we can get.

  173. on 06 Nov 2010 at 1:20 am Bugrat

    The system must remain as it is. I, for one, object to the idea that there is a “right” to “harvest” my “quotes” for spare parts, my “objections” are not of a “quoty” nature, but rather that I have yet to “quote” of any of the recipients of organs ever “quote” gratitude only their “lack of quotes”. Those who call for a change in “donation” seem to forget that death has to “be quoted properly” before “harvest” a little “quotation” might be in order here.

    aaaghaa . . . sausages

    pissed

  174. on 06 Nov 2010 at 12:01 pm Sir Alf Ramsey's Porn Dungeon

    Lord help us if one of the eds has suffered, but it might be more if someone could stick the Blah on

  175. on 06 Nov 2010 at 12:04 pm Sir Alf Ramsey's Porn Dungeon

    Wot happened to my “effacing” between the more and “if”?

  176. on 06 Nov 2010 at 12:07 pm Sir Alf Ramsey's Porn Dungeon

    hay una tormenta!

  177. on 07 Nov 2010 at 11:15 am magician assisted suicide

    Some vaguely good news: the HYS thread on “Should the government force the long-term unemployed to work?” is (mostly) a nuanced discussion of the ethics of governments forcing their people to work vs. the genuine benefit unemployed people receive from having some structured employment vs. the fact they wouldn’t be being paid enough for it vs…

  178. on 07 Nov 2010 at 1:45 pm Turd-in-the-face

    @magician,

    Yup, William Hague claims,

    the vast majority of people in Britain will think that’s the right thing to do

    Actually, considering HYS seems unanimous in threads like “should Labour let Europe decide what we eat” or “Pedophile Immigrant claims asylum”, the Tories are going to struggle if they cannot rally the troops on this one. Hague is relying on these types,

    It isn’t fair on tax payers to pay the benefits of someone who can, but won’t work indefinately. Another, more extreme idea would be to remove benefits after 6 months.

    Something tells me when Hague says the vast majority agree with this policy, he is actually talking about a few crazed fucktards who argue for state-funded rapings for just about everybody.

    This has to be the best one,

    These people who have been unemployed for so long are not there to be your slaves…

    I love the start to this. You think “Tiahahnya, a class conscious Brit? Is that even possible?”…

    … In my opinion that is the type of thing that should only be reserved for criminals, the true lowlifes of society.

    Nope, just a massive sadist cunt. We can see where Hague went wrong now.

  179. on 07 Nov 2010 at 2:29 pm Johnny Rotten

    Perhaps we should just deport anyone who has been on benefits for more than two years, they could build a new life for themselves in Afganistan or Iraq.

  180. on 07 Nov 2010 at 4:13 pm Have Your Lurk

    Perhaps we should just deport Johnny Rotten.

  181. on 07 Nov 2010 at 5:38 pm Johnny Rotten

    We should have deported the LiberalLeft sandel wearing guardian readers back in 69 as they left their hippy loving free festivals after being educated at public expense to start their crusade to destroy Britain as we knew it and turn it into this multicultural politically correct nightmarish hellhole it has become.

    Question, If I was deported to Afganistan, would I notice the difference? Oh yeah, the would be more working class indigenous Brits about, altough all in uniform, and about the same amount of hate preaching ragheads.

  182. on 07 Nov 2010 at 5:50 pm Have Your Lurk

    Rotten: in Afghanistan there are also several breeds of poisonous snake, insects the size of your fist and a huge, mostly rebuilt statue of Buddha about 200 feet high.
    Oh, and at election time people can vote without an armed escort and they can go about their daily lives without fear of being bombed, shot, intimidated, or just plain beaten up and strangled by the Taliban.

  183. on 07 Nov 2010 at 7:05 pm Ed aka Voltaire

    JohnnyTimBulb,

    Great news! When are you leaving? Travel safely!

  184. on 07 Nov 2010 at 9:02 pm eleanora_

    @Johnny Rotten

    … as opposed to hate-preaching HYS fucktards? Cock off, you cock.

  185. on 07 Nov 2010 at 10:27 pm Mim

    I actually find Johnny Rotten quite comforting. It’s nice to know that as pretty much lifelong dole scum I am still less appalling than someone who wants to send me into a war zone for, um, existing.

  186. on 08 Nov 2010 at 9:07 am Have Your Lurk

    Afghanistan, Afghanistan, Afghanistan
    The country where I quite like to be
    pony trekking or farming opium
    or just watching my neighbours getting bludgeoned and hoping I won’t be next
    Afghanistan, Afghanistan, Afghanistan
    it’s the country for me!

  187. on 08 Nov 2010 at 11:52 am ceannair

    Have Your Lurk for next Poet Laureate!

    Bog off Duffy!

  188. on 08 Nov 2010 at 12:20 pm Yossarian

    Is it over?

    Is this the death of SYB?

  189. on 08 Nov 2010 at 2:22 pm Doc Wrong

    Cuger has me so funking riled, the muddy funster! Forget him and forget you too!

  190. on 08 Nov 2010 at 2:29 pm eleanora

    Doc, are you miffed? I mean really, flipping, miffed?!

  191. on 08 Nov 2010 at 2:44 pm Johnny Rotten

    England, England, England
    The country where I quite like to be
    burgling, raping mugging
    or just watching bankers and MP’s getting richer from the fruits of my toils, whilst my borders cease to be,
    England, England, England
    it’s the country not for me!

  192. on 08 Nov 2010 at 2:56 pm DonkeySquicker

    Off you go then.

  193. on 08 Nov 2010 at 3:49 pm christonabike

    “England, England, England
    The country where I quite like to be”
    Fair enough.

    “burgling, raping mugging”
    Each to his own. Crime’s been falling since about 1995, mind http://rds.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs10/hosb1210chap1.pdf

    “or just watching bankers”
    What’s stopping you being a banker? Is it your innumeracy?

    “and MP’s getting richer from the fruits of my toils”
    The possessive apostrophe is poor English- please try to learn the language of a country if you wish to live there. The total cost to you of all MP salaries is 70 pence per year.

    “whilst my borders cease to be,”
    What?

    “England, England, England”
    OK

    “it’s the country not for me!”
    How would you know? You’ve made a whole country up.

  194. on 08 Nov 2010 at 4:04 pm Juicy-Turd

    The total cost to you of all MP salaries is 70 pence per year.

    Christon, I am not sure what point you are making.

  195. on 08 Nov 2010 at 4:06 pm brager cunt

    Johnny Rotten,

    Shit poem, mate. Shit, shit poem.

  196. on 08 Nov 2010 at 4:16 pm brager cunt

    burgling, raping mugging or just watching bankers and MP’s getting richer from the fruits of my toils

    Putting ‘watching bankers etc’ – which is presumably what you are doing – at the end of that sequence, does rather make it sound like it’s you who’s doing the burgling,raping and mugging as well.

    Either you’re a violent degenerate career criminal, or, as I suggested earlier, it’s just a really, really shit poem. Really shit.

    Could be both, I suppose.

  197. on 08 Nov 2010 at 4:32 pm Albert Angelo

    @Rotting Johnny:

    There’s a corollary to “If you love xxx so much, why don’t you go live there?”

    If you hate England so much, why don’t you fuck off somewhere else?

  198. on 08 Nov 2010 at 5:00 pm christonabike

    Ol’ shit-for-brains there was whinging on about how the MPs were getting richer as a result of his toils. I’m making the point that if you take all the MPs’ salaries and add them up then divide it by the number of UK taxpayers you get 70p. Of course, higher rate taxpayers would pay more than that and he, I suspect, less. Divide that figure by 646 to get how much money he pays for his own MP’s salary.

    Of course, once you chuck in the accommodation, the printer cartridges, the reams of paper, the coppers and the Palace of Westminster it costs the taxpayer £550,000 per member, per year to have Parliamentary democracy. Divide that by the number of taxpayers and the average person pays £5.90 a year, except no-one’s average- everyone will be above or below that amount- more than 80% will be below- so this cuntard is developing an aneurysm over less than £5 of wasted expenditure and a misplaced sense of victimisation. He’s unhappy because he’s stupid.

  199. on 08 Nov 2010 at 5:20 pm Kris

    Ah, you can’t beat a good old British past time like burglary, rape or mugging someone. You just can’t get a good raping in other countries.

    Oh no, wait, you can. I was thinking morris dancing. You can’t get a good morris dance in other countries.

  200. on 08 Nov 2010 at 5:22 pm Johnny Rotten

    241. At 3:45pm on 08 Nov 2010, SlimyKabadiGandu wrote:
    Lots of posts stating that these people need somewhere to live due to a housing shortage but aren’t there cities in the North (Hull) that have thousands of empty properties. Couldn’t they live there? Or is it a case as with housing benefits that they ‘ave a right to live in the most expensive part of the country? Additionally, who are these squatters because from everything I have seen with my own eyes (not the daily mail so don’t bother) they seem to consist of white rastas called Julian or Rupert, and Portugese or Eastern European anarchists. The real homeless aren’t getting a look in due to a bunch of left wing trustafarians or tourists who don’t want to pay for accomodation.

    Making soft southerners reside in Hull, now that is against their Uman rites!

    243. At 3:49pm on 08 Nov 2010, SlimyKabadiGandu wrote:
    Next halloween I am going around the more well off parts of town dressed as a copy of the Daily Mail. From what i read the left are absolutely terrified of it. They gibber its name in every post. Hilarious.

    DAILY MAIL in yah face WHAAAA!

  201. on 08 Nov 2010 at 5:28 pm A. Scotsman

    Johnny,

    We’re full, so don’t even think about it.

  202. on 08 Nov 2010 at 5:53 pm Rotwatcher

    “burgling, raping mugging”
    Each to his own. Crime’s been falling since about 1995, mind http://rds.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs10/hosb1210chap1.pdf

    Reported crime may have been falling, but I doubt crime per se has changed very much at all. I’ve been mugged twice in the past three years but I didn’t bother reporting it because a) there was fuck-all chance of identifying who did it, b) not enough was nicked to make an insurance claim worthwhile, and c) I just couldn’t be arsed. And yes, I know the plural of anecdote isn’t data, but the fact remains that the crime figures are the reported crime figures, not the actual crime figures.

    Not that this in any way argues against Johnny Shitsock being a total and utter cunt, obviously.

  203. on 08 Nov 2010 at 6:20 pm christonabike

    @ Rotwatcher the link there’s for the British Crime Survey- it’s not based on reported crime. You need to stop wearing golden hats and ruby necklaces when abroad in Catford.

  204. on 08 Nov 2010 at 6:22 pm Bugrat

    ..I doubt crime per se has changed very much at all. I’ve been mugged twice in the past three years..

    But I haven’t been mugged since 1971, despite living in some very seedy inner-city areas. So that’s two people experiencing three muggings in 40 years, which is 0.0375 muggings per year on average. Which is the same as no crime at all effectively.

    Of course I probably totally fucked up on those calculations.

  205. on 08 Nov 2010 at 6:26 pm Turd-London-Only-£46-Return

    Johnny Rotten actually reminds me of an MP. No matter how much you distrust them, announce your displeasure at their performance, point out their incompetence, or, in some cases, observe their criminal behaviour they are always there.

    Even for those with some form of pity for him, can only really defend the guy with statements like “Oh, a couple posts are funny” (see: “not all MPs are crooked”). Those that hate him; “he serves no purpose”, “we would be better off without him”, or – more to the point – “what a massive cunt”.

    I heard about this before, actually. I don’t think Johnny is a person at all, we might actually be dealing a metaphor. A very shitty, monotonous metaphor.

    On a side,

    There’s a corollary to “If you love xxx so much, why don’t you go live there?”

    Oh my god, please tell me you were joking. It is like watching Anakin Skywalker turn to the darkside.

  206. on 08 Nov 2010 at 6:37 pm Have Your Lurk

    Johnny Rotten? Rhymes with bottom.

  207. on 08 Nov 2010 at 6:47 pm Have Your Lurk

    Johnny Rotten is a good illustration of why I decided to become a Buddhist. The basic Buddhist tenet is, life consists in suffering. And it’s true. Even when people have things pretty good, they tend to create problems where there actually aren’t any, or where such problems are really fucking small, like ‘Rubber’ Johnny’s penis. The difference between Rubber Johnny and a Buddhist being, that the Buddhist takes responsibility for his own suffering and seeks to just fucking rise above it. Like Johnny’s penis rising, yea, towering above an ant.

  208. on 08 Nov 2010 at 8:22 pm Have Your Lurk

    Said ant being destined to drown in a very, very small tsunami of Rotten sperm.

  209. on 08 Nov 2010 at 10:02 pm Dipsomaniac Physics Student

    Ah, here’s a friend for Johnny- From the social care shit-flinging contest:

    5. At 11:58am on 08 Nov 2010, scotty1694 wrote:
    maybe we should legalise assisted suicide? i mean if they want to die and it save us 100′s of thousands of pounds why not? its better for everyone? especially with the over population storm broodin.

    however i have no problem with my tax money going to support these people if it was me in there shoes id be so grateful for the same

    And from the debate on Burma:

    77. At 9:18pm on 07 Nov 2010, Rabbitkiller wrote:
    Why should we care? Burma is of little consequence in the world, let them sort their own problems out. We are already over-involved with more important overseas matters, let alone the many problems we have to deal with right here.

    Another few years and HYS will be Facebook for cretins.

  210. on 09 Nov 2010 at 2:07 am Ed aka Otto

    Johnny Rotten is a good illustration of why I decided to become a Buddhist. The basic Buddhist tenet is, life consists in suffering.

    I thought it was “every man for himself”?

  211. on 09 Nov 2010 at 7:17 am Have Your Lurk

    Ed, I don’t know about that, I’ll have to look it up.

    I’ve realised that we’re all feeding the fucking troll. Particularly me. I’m up there at the head of the queue, pumping jism into his mouth and slapping my ballsack off his chin. I hereby elect to, um, not feed the fucking troll. Call it civil disobedience.

  212. on 09 Nov 2010 at 7:19 am Have Your Lurk

    Interesting fact. The word queue comes out as ‘steve’ on T9. Which would be interesting in the context of my previous post.

  213. on 09 Nov 2010 at 1:05 pm Kris

    @Rotwatcher

    Are you suggesting then that reported crime has gone down and unreported crime has gone up proportionately?

    Also, I’ve never been mugged. Comes with being 6 and a half feet tall; people think you might be hard when actually you’ll keel over in a light wind.

    (someone fucking send something in, SYB is probably dying but that’s no reason not to squeeze every last drop of blood out of it’s corpse)

  214. on 09 Nov 2010 at 5:19 pm Johnny Rotten

    The only reason reported crime is down is because reporting crime to the inept bunch of public sector wasters that masqurade as coppers is like pissing in the wind. They are only interested in speeding tickets and arresting little old ladies for delivering christian leaflets in a muslim area (the PC police)
    It is the same reason every year GCSE and A level results break all previous records, yet our school leavers are so uneducated and clueless that employers have to employ foreigners who cannot even speak the language.
    Its the UK that is dying and the ConDems are squeezing every last drop of blood out of it before they all retire to Monaco (see last nights documentary of pensioners being squeezed for their last few grand by the taxman and his inept useless multibillion pound computer)

  215. on 09 Nov 2010 at 5:38 pm Johnny Rotten

    [^citation needed]

  216. on 09 Nov 2010 at 7:38 pm Michael

    Johnny

    Rubbish. Documented examples of these arrests of little old ladies please.

    And for all your rubbish about exams getting easier, is that not because of better teaching methods, better infant health and nutrition, more people having access to books and information as they grow up? Or are you one of those that would think that because Usain Bolt keeps breaking the 100m sprint record, that must mean that the track keeps being shortened?

    Damn, I’ve fed the troll

  217. on 09 Nov 2010 at 8:11 pm Johnny Rotten

    Damn, I’ve fed the troll

    MUNCH MUNCH……………………………………………………………………………………….BURB….

  218. on 09 Nov 2010 at 10:36 pm Johnny Rotten

    I bum foxes

  219. on 09 Nov 2010 at 11:07 pm Sheepless

    I was going to post something about the Delingpole column on torture, but I decided it would be less depressing to slit my wrists instead.

  220. on 09 Nov 2010 at 11:14 pm tw@basket.com

    Hold on! That last missive from rotten Johnny was uncharacteristically coherent and succinct. Did somebody help him with it?

  221. on 10 Nov 2010 at 12:17 am Cylux

    Cheers Sheepless, I just went and read that and am now also staring into a deep black pit of despair.

  222. on 10 Nov 2010 at 12:19 am Cylux

    Oh wait, now it’s been replaced with the urge to punch Delingpole in his smug face.

  223. on 10 Nov 2010 at 1:16 am Dipsomaniac Physics Student

    Presumably someone with frontal lobes, then. Methinks.
    And while we ponder on that, some classic cuntery:
    How can the trains run on time? Simples-

    9. At 10:52am on 09 Nov 2010, SystemF wrote:
    3m+ immigrants in a short space of time tends to put stress on public services. Did the BBC omit that from their article by ‘accident’?

    The left wing screwed up the country and we’re all paying for it with NHS problems, public transport problems, housing problems and terrorism.

    How about a nice cuddly, inoffensive topic then; favourite British brands, anyone?

    1. At 12:05pm on 09 Nov 2010, suzie127 wrote:
    Unfortunately the brands that most of us would think were British are actually owned by foreign shareholders. As for promoting British brands overseas, perhaps we should try promoting them in Britian first as most of what we buy is foreign.

    Ugh, that word, “foreign.” Remarkable the effect it has on the denizens of HYS: An near-instantaneous rise of blood pressure by 50%, while cognitive ability- If one may call it that- Drops proportionately.

    95. At 3:40pm on 09 Nov 2010, SPEEDTHRILLS wrote:
    At 1:16pm on 09 Nov 2010, Kuradi Vitukari wrote:
    Ginsters.

    They are Cornish – not British.

    51. At 2:04pm on 09 Nov 2010, dimwid wrote:
    What do you mean new member? How long does one have to be a member before one is no longer classified as new!!! I have been a member for months!

    Rather longer than that, I fear.

  224. on 10 Nov 2010 at 2:43 am Pete Tong

    Rather longer than that, I fear.

    I have been a member of HYS since the days of RightyRightwing, Philip (I have spat coffee all over my keyboard) Bradlaugh AKA liberalLeftandProud, John Chang, Phosgene gasse etc etc, Topsy Turvey, neworldorder, buddistmonk and John Adair. I am still classed as a new member, yet any asylum seeker or immigrant walking into the country is given top priority for a council house, full benefits and a job at the BBC, oh the ironey!!!

  225. on 10 Nov 2010 at 3:45 am Ed aka Otto

    Yawn.

  226. on 10 Nov 2010 at 3:47 am Ed aka Otto

    ps HYL: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095159/quotes?qt0320171

  227. on 10 Nov 2010 at 6:45 am nick

    must admit i’m a bit disappointed with the website recently

    britain’s new accord with france generated some hilarious stuff on the dailymail website and everyone is pretending this is some serious website

    the writing on here by the people who post the articles and especially in the comments bit is 6/10 but they did have a talent for finding the most idiotic posts on these idiotic ‘i love britain’ forums

    now there is 2 posts a month and it’s all serious and lets face it, noone gives a fuck about our opinions, least of all us who think we are expressing ourselves by criticising the internet on the internet lol

    please can we have more funny stuff

  228. on 10 Nov 2010 at 6:52 am nick

    i was so angry i posted on the internet :D

  229. on 10 Nov 2010 at 11:13 am nooney noone

    oh but i do really

  230. on 10 Nov 2010 at 12:29 pm Turd-for-face

    Delingpole on “Better that a thousand liberals die than that one Al Qaeda terrorist should be waterboarded!”

    The comments thread is weird. The article is about torture and airport security. The comments seem to have degenerated into a series of random right-wing, conservative exclamations. Not found anything on immigration, but there is over 600 comments. The comments seem to have absolutely no coherence, logic, or point. It reminds me of Delingpole’s article.

    Premier Wen Jiabao knows more about ‘human rights’ than ‘Dave’ ever will. He was purged over his opposition to Tiananmen.

    “…all the fuss about global warming is grossly exaggerated.

    Yes indeed. The loudmouth in the Pub comes to mind. You know the prat who knows someone is having a bad time in his / her life but enjoys rubbing it in. It is usually conceit and arrogance with that know-all type.

    Guys, I implore you, fly Dhimmi Air instead. There the body-searches are cursory and determinedly non-discriminatory. And in the likely event that your plane does blow up half way across the Atlantic, you will at least have the consolation of knowing as the tiny parts of your body drift oceanwards that you and all your fellow impeccably liberal passengers have kept the moral high ground to the last.

    The last one was from James Delingpole. Now we can see his market: the randomly-spout-rhetoric-for-no-purpose-other-than-that-is-what-Americans-do-on-TV demographic.

  231. on 10 Nov 2010 at 1:24 pm Have Your Lurk

    I thought that HYS reflected public opinion until I discovered SYB. But now it’s a bit like Smirnoff: the only thing that rhymes with it is the act of divesting an actress of her surname, to wit, chopping Helen’s Mirren off. Criticise it if you like, but the alternative is the troll.

  232. on 10 Nov 2010 at 5:01 pm Ugly Newt

    Some other interesting facts about Smirnoff are that it scores 20 in Scrabble, and T9 suggests “poisoned”. Why is this relevant? Well, take a look at the “Why I don’t use public transport” thread:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2010/11/how_should_train_overcrowding.html

    The first handful of comments blaming crowded trains on immigrants (and accusing the BBC article of *deliberately omitting* this Fact) have been moderated, but they’ve already poisoned the well and led to at least 20 more idiots requoting them.

  233. on 10 Nov 2010 at 8:21 pm Johnny Rotten

    On the train HYS

    563. At 4:18pm on 10 Nov 2010, John Adair wrote:
    Perhaps if we stopped pricing our young folk out of educating themselves, we would not have to import an immigrant for every job that comes on the market. That way we would have more room on public transport and we would not all have to be taxed to death to feed and house milions of unemployable locals.

    wow, how did you slip that one past the lefty mods at the BBC John?

  234. on 10 Nov 2010 at 9:30 pm tw@basket.com

    Ugh, that word, “foreign.”

    I was tidying up some old crap recently and discovered some cheesy novelty items with the word “foreign” stamped on them. There was no indication of where they were made only that they were not made here. Ah, but how could such an item be made without resorting to perjury? The stamp only becomes true once the item is exported from its country of origin. At the point of manufacture it is an evil fib. Furthermore, it would clearly be immoral to reimport such an item back to its country of origin rendering its stamp mendacious again but how could you know which country to avoid? I worry about these things, especially when I am supposed to be tidying up.

    Also, there was crap stamped “Empire made” which didn’t say which part of which empire.

  235. on 10 Nov 2010 at 10:06 pm Have Your Lurk

    (types name of a defunct vodka on T9) poisoned. Wow, yer right!
    I am in drink. (Hic.)
    can I just say I love all you guys? Hic. Even johnny fucking rotten. I love ya, mate. Hic.

  236. on 10 Nov 2010 at 10:43 pm Rotwatcher

    @Kris

    Are you suggesting then that reported crime has gone down and unreported crime has gone up proportionately?

    Nah, nothing so scientific. I’m just sceptical about relying on statistics like these (which rely in part on people reporting crime*, and in part on people telling the truth about their experience of crime in a questionnaire). I know they’re the best figures available, but I’m pretty sure they’re also crap.

    * A straw poll conducted in the office among six people gave seven unreported burlaries (all one person – his fault for collecting vintage motorbikes), two muggings (mine), three criminal damage (cars keyed) – none of these were reported to the Police for reasons of extreme apathy and lack of faith in any positive result. I didn’t ask whether any of my colleagues would give up this data to the BCS – I would, if asked. But no-one has, so far.

  237. on 10 Nov 2010 at 11:29 pm Michael

    @Rotwatcher OK, so I do work in the area of justice and I used to have similar thoughts to you about crime levels, but the stats are pretty overwhelming. One thing that seems to have changed is that acqusitive crime (ie knicking videos and dvds) is no longer worth it. If you can get one from Tesco for £20, why buy one from the dodgy geezer in the pub for £10. Improved car security seems to have had more effect too. The real question that should be asked of government is; if crime is down by so much, why do you lock so many folk up, and indeed, is crime only down because you lock so many folk up?

  238. on 10 Nov 2010 at 11:46 pm Cylux

    So workfare.
    Perhaps you regard it as being akin to slavery, compelled to work otherwise the social safety net will be pulled from underneath you. Perhaps instead you regard it as giving the long-term unemployed a chance to build up a healthy work attitude and get-up and go spirit, that years of listless boredom had previously destroyed.

    Or perhaps at hearing this idea the urge to touch yourself became unbearable, your arousal levels peaking so very near to the brink of orgasm, all that will be required to push you over the edge will be:

    Best news I’ve heard in a long time. I know several people who have been scrounging for years and are quite capable of working. I even know a qualified plumber (and how easy are they to get when you need one?) who would rather sit at home claiming benefits than go to work. Can’t wait to see his face when they catch up with him!
    jacqui

    OH MY GOD, YES, YES! Nothing, nothing at all, would get your juices flowing more than seeing your jobless friends or neighbours forced out of their home, and into doing work about town that apparently isn’t worth actually giving someone a fucking job to get them done. Finally them fuckers got what was coming to them.

    In fact terry experienced his first hard-on in years:

    Yes – why not get them out of their beds & do something useful for their local societies rather than moan on daily basis about how hard done by they are in not finding work – EARN YOUR DOLE!! Gives us taxpayers some satisfaction for paying for the long term unemployed & knowing that our local council taxes can be targeted more efficiently with the additional funds available.
    After all its hardly working for free, is it???
    terry

    How he has yearned for satisfaction. After watching Jeremy Kyle once, and seeing how everyone on it was having considerably more sex than he was, or indeed ever will, what with lie-detector and paternity tests being done left right and centre, his old chap just hasn’t been able to rise to the occasion. If workfare goes through he just might end up with a permanent stiffy.

    But wait! What’s that I hear in the distance? A champion of the poor and dispossessed? Come to ruin this orgy of delight at the expense of the unemployed?

    What a splendid idea! I mean it’s not like we abolished slavery is it. Great idea getting the unemployed out doing community service, I mean they’ve committed a crime by not having a job. Oh hang on haven’t we got lots of people locked up in prison (who’ve actually committed real crimes) who aren’t actually doing anything other than watching TV, playing on a computer game or sticking their thumb up their rectum till they wait for their release date to go out and commit more crime? Ah but then of course they have human rights and can’t be forced to work. I’d be interested to see if the govt pays the minimum wage to the people who are forced out on these schemes. I very much doubt it and it would therefore be breaching previous legislation put in place to protect the interests of the common worker. This reminds me somewhat of the Todt organisation in Nazi Germany for building roads etc. “No job. We’ll put you to work building something. Bad for your health? Tough!”
    This is more extreme than a lot of the crap Labour came out with!
    Karl Flavell

    Godwin, Prisons are like holiday camps, and “Human Rights”.

    HOUSE!