Thanks to Robert, who found this.
Stuart_MCFC
24 Minutes ago
Those knocking the BBC for publishing this article – do you not want any criticism of capitalism?
>>>>>>>>>I think people like myself dislike the BBC’s left wing bias is because we have seen what happens when socialism take over and are not fooled by the romatanic lie. The milions killed under the name of socialism / communism would only want us to expose it.
AuntieLeft
Yes, I fully expect that the victims of totalitarian orders around the world are, at this very moment, looking down on the BBC and decrying just how disgusting their output is, and how it’s exactly like what they went through when they were alive. Especially the prison camps, the secret police and the constant, creeping fear you get every time you tune into BBC Four.
And I’m sure that they’re up there in heaven right now and cheering you on for your indefatigable crusading, only too happy that you’re doing your level best to fight against the injustices they suffered by getting on the internet literally every day and making at least one overly-dramatic, borderline messianic blog comment about the BBC that hardly anyone reads.
Adapting Churchill, “Capitalism is the worst system, except for all the others”. Capitalism has issues – but it’s still our best bet.
Also, the author is mistakenly fixated with Western economies. Globally, capitalism is working better than ever. In 30 years of capitalism, hundreds of millions of people in China & India have been lifted from poverty.
If Marx lived, he would retract his thesis.
Matt Hunter
Nah, I think he’d just hand it over to you and let you swap some words about to vaguely prove a point you thought you had, just like Churchill would have. Yes, I know he said “democracy”, but you’re right, what he actually meant was “whatever the fuck that twat Matt Hunter wants it to say.”
Fair cop, though – I’m sure as hell if Marx were around today he wouldn’t bother with any manifestos to free men from their chains. He’d go for something simpler. Like, “Fuck me, I’ve just been reading the BBC website, and what a bunch of cunts those people commenting on there are. I reckon I’d rather stick my beard in a cotton gin than have to read through all that shite produced by those self-important fuckwits. All hail dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, because if those Have Your Say wankers have the vote we’re all fucked.”
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Pretty sure Marx died about 30 years before the Russian Revolution, wasn’t Russian, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, Cuban or anything else, and lived in England for about 40 years before he died. That he never said anything about killing anybody or totalitarianism and that Capital (which the article is talking about) was an in-depth, economic textbook describing how capitalism worked.
I could be wrong, it could be the case that he just wrote blueprints for totalitarianism and mass murder that people followed to the letter. What would I know? I’ve only read all of his books. I couldn’t possibly have the unique insight that only briefly skimming a wikipedia article and half remembering a history lesson about the Russian Revolution could provide.
Andrew’s right, you know: we can learn skills. On computers.
Note to self: do not nest blockquote tags.
Sod that, where can I sign up to be a romatanic?
Well, I’d just like to say I’m not Dirty McSquirty, and neither is my wife.
More wankburps:
Two words: Fuck off.
The sooner we have PC mind control the better-It would be so much easier to think ‘shit-brained shark’s scrotum’, than the bother of typing it. Can’t wait.
To be fair, I am getting really sick of the BBCs constant and unceasing anti Menshevik bias.
…squeezed a smoker without mercy and the spam fairly flowered! it was thing of beauty but the card on the camera was full…so much for my various schemes
Now look here….it’s easy to mock people like Matt Hunter. But the truth is it takes a special kind of man to improve and correct classic quotes from history. The fella has cojones.
Here he is with John F Kennedy. Yes, we know he actually said “Ich bin ein Berliner” but we all know he MEANT to say “Ich bin ein Inglish muffin”.
Hard to argue with that.
You just can’t be too careful these days. I read an article on the New Statesman’s website not so long ago and the next thing I knew I was digging irrigation ditches for the Khmer Rouge. I’m not sure who I blame for this, but I’m fairly sure Marx had a hand in it.
If Marx had lived, he’d be 193 so I’m not sure he’d be in a fit state to retract anything. I guess he could be a Zombie, in which case, his comment on capitalism would be – “BRAAAINS”…….only in German.
It seems that it’s the gay parades that are causing his “spam” to “flower”. Marx must be kicking himself that he didn’t foresee the gay parades.
An awful lot of ignorance and confusion on that thread. Thank goodness Carl is here to make everything clear.
Matt Hunter does Martin Luther King: “I have a cunning plan.”
We all know, of course, that the Bolsheviks achieved their revolution through the slow, creeping advance of political correctness legislation, seemingly designed to combat acceptable prejudices but in actuality a method of forcing people to accept communism. Obviously.
Actually, “AuntieLeft” some former residents of former communist countries quite miss the old red terror (not a euphemism before anyone – Lurk – starts). Oh, alright, just one Ukrainian that I know of, and fair enough she was going to compete in the olympics and wasn’t killed by communism, but make sure you know what you’re talking about before you post on HYS! This is a serious forum… oh, wait…
And I know it’s off topic but I’d just like to draw your attention to this on the HYS thread about Troy Davis (which is a minefield of brain farts in case anyone was bored)
John Allen
7 Hours ago ‘Meanwhile in the US state of Texas’
‘Meanwhile’, what a disgusting way to report a death. White or black a life is a life and the BBC should really choose it’s words more carefully.
How dare they say ‘meanwhile’?!
@ Sid Vicious (from the last thread)
Sorry about the case of mistaken identity Sidney. I think some of your earlier posts always seemed to co-incide with Johhny’s and I formed the impression you were his “good alter ego”, the side of him that wanted to join in here rather than just troll.
I have since realised my mistake. I now know you are really Neil Craig.
My spidey sense also tells me that Unexceptional Female is Bit Special from the olden days. That is no insult obviously!
Aha! Bias! That’s you disqualified from commenting on the matter. Or editing the Wikipedia page for that matter.
Troy Davis execution;
Case closed guys. The keen mind of celebrated psychologist Edward has put all our doubts to rest. He said personally.
All those exclamations marks are there only to emphasise how right Edward is about things he knows nothing about.
Looks like we’ve got ourselves a reader.
Meanwhile, over on the “I can’t stand the French but they are right to stick it up the Muslims with niqab fines” goldmine. Well, when I say goldmine, read shit-pit….
I’ve seen it happen ALF. Especially in France. You know what they are like over there
hamster, you’re thinking of Hungary, not France.
Not even with accentuated shoulder pads?
Ah – fair enough. I didn’t realise it was an anti-munter measure.
I just saw a first edition French copy of Le Capital by Marx, on sale in an antique book dealer’s window for 300 euro. (Not mint, some cumstains on the title page.)
Amazing coincidence, eh?
B3ta’s Question of the Week this week, will, I warrant you, supply a few examples of feeble minded, sharted opinions displaying a proud degree of ignorance of basic facts, backed up with cavalier displays of self righteousness.
Like this cunt here:
http://b3ta.com/questions/fixtheworld/post1363880#answers-post-1363923
Does anyone else think that bit was originally followed by ‘alas’?
It’s got me entertaining the possibility Burka beaches.
If a nudist rammed his nudity down my throat, I’m pretty sure I could have him arrested on a charge of oral rape.
I’ve patented the sleeveless burkha for the American market. It still covers the whole face, but there’s a concession there to the right to bare arms.
I think burkhas could be great. No trophy wives, for one thing. And the best excuse ever for infidelity. I swear to God I thought it was you, honey! She refused to take off the veil, bent over and took it up the Gary, and demanded I buy her something really expensive. How was I supposed to know it was your aunt?
I hadn’t realised SYB had turned into the fucking Bernard Manning tribute site
What, you mean she didn’t lick it clean? That’s disgusting!
My wife asked if my fundamentalist Muslim mother in law could come down for the weekend.
‘Why?’ I asked.
‘Because she’s been on the roof for four weeks,’ she replied.
Ah, I see how that works. Let’s have a go.
I wouldn’t say my fundamentalist muslim mother-in-law is fat, but when she sits around the house…
… erm
.. burka? curry? turban bomb?
… Grrr. Fuckin’ immigrunts. Not even funny. Cunts.
My fundamentalist Muslim wife went to a Carribean island for her holidays!
Jamaica?
‘Course I fucking made her, she’s a Muslim fundamentalist and she’s a woman!
Fuck off John.
That chap on B3TA makes an interesting point. Just look at Thailand. Their prisons are horrific places to find oneself in, and their murder rate is only about 5 times the UK’s, so they must be doing something right!
Heightened levels of swivel-eyed twitchiness over at HYS, as the nuggets grapple with news that drinking coffee may help women avoid depression
How – HOW! – is it possible to get the wrong end of the story so fucking completely? Coffee goody-good, Bibi, no baddy-bad. Love the final ironic flourish though.
I don’t think any amount of coffee could cure their depression Gordon. Unless an imperial ton of it landed on your head. Hey presto.
But Gordon’s a lightweight – he’s only depressed a paltry 3 women. Whereas this fucker….
has driven a whole country to the edge
But it’s not all bad. Take Maria….
I’ve noticed the difference in you too Maria! Also, that you piss like a fire hydrant.
I bet I could get Maria’s juices flowing mrrraaah
Warms the cockles of your heart, it does.
Actually, it warms the heart of my cock.
“Speakybranes is part of the failure of interwebby forums,” says Topsy; however, according to Nelson, it is not so much speakybrane technology that is part of the failure of interwebby forums, but rather the meaninglessness, and eventually the absurdity, of righty thought. Paedo suggests that we have to choose between strictural cunilinguistics theory and sub textual Daily Mail destition.
“SpeakyBrane identity is fundamentally elitist,” says Topsy. But an abundance of modernisms concerning the role of the Lefty as lawmaker exist. Craig promotes the use of the precapitalist paradigm of consensus to analyses society in general and Kosovo in particular.
However, a number of narratives concerning the sub textual paradigm of consensus consciousness may be rediscovered. Strictural subcultural Leftist theory states that multicultural has objective value, given that truth is indistinct from reality.
But the primary theme of Adair’s critique of perpetual libertarianism is a myth poetical totality of Guardian like substicture. If realism holds, we have to choose between strictural subcultural Leftist theory and BNP/EDL hyper obscurity.
In nonsense, the extra absurdity, and subsequent futility, of ultra-realism which is a central theme of Adair’s right wing’s monologue emerges again in the rain game dance, although in a more self-fulfilling nonsense. Red Ken suggests the use of the sub textual paradigm of no consensus to after attack outdated, mean sexist no perceptions of missociety.
It could be said that civil war with Boris Johnson suggests that the works of Python are not cultural in a Cleese like way, but Milligan essence of Spike. Many theories concerning the role of the troll as poet extraordinary exist.
In the works of Python, a predominant concept is the concept of neocultural truth of dead parrots “this parrot is dead, this parrot is dead” squark. In an essence, the example of interpatriarchial sub capitalist thought theory intrinsic to Python’s “I am a lumberjack and I don’t care” is also evident in Dixon of Duck Green. The premise of strictural subcultural Leftist theory implies that consciousness is capable of insignificant forms and that we are all one and one is all.
The characteristic theme of the works of Python is a myth poetical whole of clockwise Wanda like fish. But Satire promotes the use of the sexual paradigm of interconsensus to read and deconstruct sexual misidentify. The main theme of Topsy’s essay on strictural subcultural Daily Mail theory is not discourse, but recourse.
It could be said that an abundance of appropriations concerning realism of the tabloids may be revealed in the fullness of time. The primary theme of the works of Python is in the genre, and some would say the dialectic, of sub dialectic multiculture.
In nonsense, if the sub textual paradigm of consensus Leftism holds firm, we have to choose between strictural subcultural Leftist theory and sub textual Daily Mail theory. Tw@tbasket suggests the use of realism to attack rightwing class divisions.
It could be said that Have Your Lurk suggests that the works of Python are postmodern neocultural hypertext origin. The characteristic theme of Ugly Newt’s analysis of strictural subcultural Leftwing theory is a self-justifying totality of the parts.
If one examines sub capitalist Rightwing theory, one is faced with a choice: either accept dialectic objectivism of democracy or conclude that left wing consciousness is used to exploit minorities, but only if the textual paradigm of neoconsensus is invalid; otherwise, we can assume that the establishment is capable of significance of expense and bonus ripping. However, any number of situationisms concerning the failure, and therefore the dialectic, of constructivist democracy exist. Very Tenables promotes the use of realism to modify multicultural underclass subculture.
“Consciousness is dead,” says Puppy sandwich; however, according to Sir Alf Ramseys Porn Dugong, it is not so much unconsciousness that is dead, but rather the collapse and some would say the economy, of enlightenment. Therefore, buddistmonk uses the term ‘Dharma narrative’ to denote not Dharma narrative inititive as such, but prenarrative sub Dharma of the inititive practice. In The Limits of Interpretation (Advances in meditation), Buddha denies realism; in The Name of the Dharma wheel of death he affirms the textual paradigm of neoconsensus.
If one examines strictural post dialectic Leftist theory, one is faced with a choice: either reject multicultural objectivism or conclude that truth may be used to entrench capitalism. It could be said that if the textual paradigm of consensus holds, we have to choose between the patriarchialist paradigm of leftwing consensus and neocapitalist construction of behaviour. The subject is interpolated into a that includes democracy as a whole.
The primary theme of the works of HYS is the bridge between society and sexual identity of the organs. In a sense, the paradigm, and eventually the meaninglessness, of the textual paradigm of consensus prevalent in the Dharma wheel of death before life emerges again in The Limits of Interpretation (Advances in multicultural symbotics), although in a more web material essence. Milligan states that we have to choose between realism and preleftwing capitalistic theory.
But Satire suggests the use of multicultural objectivism to challenge hierarchy of the strictural subcultures. The premise of the textual paradigm of leftwing borders holds that reality is intrinsically elitist.
Thus, Paedo uses the term ‘Twat me objectivism’ to denote not, in fact, discourse, but sub discourse of the interlogs. Nelson promotes the use of speakybrane “powerful communication’ to attack and modify art.
It could be said that a number of conceptualisms concerning dualistic multifunctional objectivism may be found. If realism holds, the contractions of rhythm are reminiscent of contusions.
In a sense, several sub theories concerning the collapse of society interculture coexist. The subject is contextualized into all that includes sexuality as a paradox of concept.
It could be said that Nelson uses the term ‘the prestructuralist paradigm of BBC HYS narrative’ to denote the difference between speakybrane identity and class divide. The subject is interpolated into all that includes narratively as a whole apart separately divided together.
Wasn’t that a discarded chapter of The Naked Lunch, with all the rude words changed to SYB usernames?
@ Big Molls little Troll
Heard it.
I must not fear.
For Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
The eroded sculpture of clotted tissues and the vast redshifts of unattainable vaginae has imprinted upon me the certain knowledge that I am a mote.
They laughed when my burka wearing wife said she wanted to be a comedian.
Well, they’re not laughin now.
@ Big Molls little Troll
Why?
The “Should the uppity Jocks teach Scottish history in Scottish schools” is as predictable as you would expect, but I did enjoy the Tiggerish enthusiasm of redrobb as he careers wildly off piste.
Fail – you’re kidding? I’d give you an A* redrobb. That’s not an A-Star I’m afraid, it’s an A-Asterisk
*No guesses what the A stands for**
** No, Lurk – not anal probe
What? My Anglo Saxon grandad didn’t die on a battlefield to let those bastard Scots set their own school syllabus.
Sorry, as an Englishman, I forgot that when mentioning Scotland I’m morally obliged to make some kind of joke about heroin use / battered mars bars / alcoholics. So, here goes:
The Scots get to set their own school syllabus, eh? What will they be teaching? How to drink too much, take smack and how to deep fry chocolate?
ARE YOU WITH ME FELLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Sounds like he went to school at the same time as me. Hopefully not the same school though.
Exactly, it all started with fuel duty, first the increase the amount of tax per litre of oil by 5 kopeks. Jeremyvich Clarksonko tried to explain this was a policy by a stupid Moscovite bald Muscovite, but no-one listened.
Then Rizchard Littlejohnski pointed out the tyranny of centralised Russocrats banning the annual Mogilev Cheese Anal Pumping of Serf Festival were meddling in proud Belorussian tradition.
What happened? Clarksonko and Littlejohnski died in a labour camp in Siberia…. not sure what moral of my hypothetical story is, I feel very conflicted right now.
Chris Woodhead (boo! hiss!) comes out with a proposal that some kids should take up vocational training at 14. Whatever the pro’s and cons of this, of course you can be sure that on HYS this has turned into a totally binary argument. Don’t look for a nuanced debate – just decide which camp you are in. It’s either;
a) a cold-hearted tory plan to stick kids up chimneys (and there are literally hundreds of comments saying exactly that, each of them smugly pleased with their “unique” contribution) or…
b) bleeding common sense innit, I left school at 14, never did me any harm and now I earn blah blah fucking blah
The comments were coming through so fast it was like facing a fire-hose of shit. I was a long time lurker on this site before I started posting, and until recently I had NEVER actually been on HYS. I just enjoyed the mentalism via SYB without sullying my delicate soul. For Christs sake, Dizzy / Alex / Gainsbourg please get a new posting up soon so I don’t have to delve into the midden again, Pleeeeaaaase!
You got the birch for behaving badly on holiday? Ah, the good old days before Butlins went all fucking soft.
Now he tells me. So that’s why I had to go to school – cos we only had a cat
It’s so damn tricky isn’t it Joyanblu, all these different aged people hiding in different aged bodies. Like that time you got into trouble for touching that 14 year old. You TOLD them he was 18 inside but would they listen?
What pun? Oh….using the word academic in a debate about education? Ha ha. No, I won’t excuse you, you fucking moron. Wondered how long it would take for someone to shoehorn immigrunts into the argument.
Hey – leave my mother out of this! She knows I don’t like cheese and tomato.
There is compelling evidence that some species in the animal kingdom have a capacity for self-awareness. Sigh…
I think I need help.
“Children’s packed lunches ‘lack fruit and veg.’”
Just a cunt.
Of course! Damn your superior intellect. I now see that my fiendish plan to quit school at thirteen by turning up for every lesson and staying for their entire duration until I was 16 was doomed from the start.
To be fair, if you’re 13 years old and already have a job as a farmer you’ve probably not got time for school.
The trouble with waiting until they are 14 is they’re liable to get stuck in the chimney or down t’pit.
Let them leave at 6 – get ‘em used to a proper job.
he’ll have died of the bubonic plague or a frenchman’s crossbow bolt by the time he’s 20.
The is always a solution to a problem, if only you look hard enough
I wonder if it is a black cat? once a black, it’s a wheelchair after that!
Yeas, please Dizzy, let’s have another posting! Let’s!
Actually even Ken Clarke is now admitting that the story about the cat is a load of fucking shit.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/04/theresa-may-clashes-judges-cat .
If it’s a siamese cat, it can fuck off back to Thailand!!!
He’d have said the same thing if it were a weazle.